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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/4/26 at 11:14 am to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 11:14 am to
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Hezbollah is rejecting the ceasefire agreements signed by Lebanon and Israel yesterday. I know shocking right?

It never made sense, flying Lebanese government reps in to meet with the Israelis to discuss peace. Hezbollah has never recognized the authority of the Lebanese government to control it, and the Lebanese government can't control — nor speak for — Hezbollah. It was dumb and pointless, but the charade played on.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 11:23 am to
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Are you saying that the Democrats are the reason Trump is not prosecuting this war in an aggressive fashion? Is that where we are now?


Dumbass GWB was able to convince Democrats to support his dubious invasion of Iraq based on claims of some mythical WMD.

Now, Iran is openly admitting to Trump's negotiators that they have 1000 lbs of 60% enriched uranium, but Trump, the 4D chess-playing deal-maker, can't convince Democrats, and even a few Pubs, to support his war with Iran.
Posted by Scorpio58
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:11 pm to
Trump is scared the IRGC will kill his children after the supposed attempt on his daughter. Ever since this has come out, he keeps saying we are close to a deal. Only deal he wants is his children safe!
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:12 pm to
can't convince Democrats to just do the right thing.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:27 pm to
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Dumbass GWB was able to convince Democrats to support his dubious invasion of Iraq based on claims of some mythical WMD.


The dems, the UN and pretty much everyone at the time believed Saddam had WMDs at the time. Killing a few thousand Kurds with poison gas underscored that belief.

Saddam was largely bluffing and he bet his life on his bluff.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:30 pm to
Well this is kind of unexpected.

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This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 2:31 pm
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:34 pm to
Well lets see if this is another Trump bluff or are we about to pop off round 2.

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Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by TulsaSooner78
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:50 pm to
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Well this is kind of unexpected.


Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:07 pm to
lol, we hear this every 4-5 days. Empty threats. The kinetic phase of this war is over. The strategy now appears to be let the sanctions/blockade choke their economy for several more weeks/months to get a more favorable deal.
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 3:08 pm
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:14 pm to
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ol, we hear this every 4-5 days. Empty threats. The kinetic phase of this war is over. The strategy now appears to be let the sanctions/blockade choke their economy for several more weeks/months to get a more favorable deal.


While I tend to agree with the empty threat thing, he has not said to them directly during the ceasefire "Deal now or we will strike" This is a slight shift in tone from Trump. Before it was kind of vague references of "or else" etc..

But judging by how he has been "negotiating" lately, I wouldn't be surprised if the uptick in threats and all the travel warnings being issued are just a new level in his threat matrix. Guess we will have to see.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:18 pm to
Hell, at this point we are just as likely to get a truth social post from Donald saying that he never said that and the reports are fake news.
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:28 pm to
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Now, Iran is openly admitting to Trump's negotiators that they have 1000 lbs of 60% enriched uranium, but Trump, the 4D chess-playing deal-maker, can't convince Democrats, and even a few Pubs, to support his war with Iran.

As I recall the climate back then, GWB did not spend 24/7 publicly accusing Democrats of treason for anything and everything. Trump has made it exceedingly clear that he does not want anyone on his side who isn't subservient to him. That makes it very difficult to build a coalition.

But despite that, if Trump went to Congress with an actual plan and a specific request for authorization, he could pull several democrats in to support the action, especially in light of Iran's hostilities in the Strait of Hormuz and the bombing of neighboring allied nations. No one wants the energy markets to collapse for lack of supply.

In order to get it done, Trump would have to come forward respectfully and actually ask for support. Trump will never do it because he is a narcissist, but if he did, he could get a specific authorization passed.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:33 pm to
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As I recall the climate back then, GWB did not spend 24/7 publicly accusing Democrats of treason for anything and everything.


Why do you democrats always accuse the other side of doing what you do?

Trump is a literal Nazi and a direct threat to democracy according to team democrat since 2015
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