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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:12 pm to TulsaSooner78
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:12 pm to TulsaSooner78
can't convince Democrats to just do the right thing.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:57 pm to themunch
Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:27 pm to TulsaSooner78
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Dumbass GWB was able to convince Democrats to support his dubious invasion of Iraq based on claims of some mythical WMD.
The dems, the UN and pretty much everyone at the time believed Saddam had WMDs at the time. Killing a few thousand Kurds with poison gas underscored that belief.
Saddam was largely bluffing and he bet his life on his bluff.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:30 pm to Auburn1968
Well this is kind of unexpected.
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:31 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:32 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:34 pm to BayouBengal51
Well lets see if this is another Trump bluff or are we about to pop off round 2.
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:41 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:50 pm to BayouBengal51
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Well this is kind of unexpected.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:06 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:07 pm to BayouBengal51
lol, we hear this every 4-5 days. Empty threats. The kinetic phase of this war is over. The strategy now appears to be let the sanctions/blockade choke their economy for several more weeks/months to get a more favorable deal.
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:14 pm to Stidham8
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ol, we hear this every 4-5 days. Empty threats. The kinetic phase of this war is over. The strategy now appears to be let the sanctions/blockade choke their economy for several more weeks/months to get a more favorable deal.
While I tend to agree with the empty threat thing, he has not said to them directly during the ceasefire "Deal now or we will strike" This is a slight shift in tone from Trump. Before it was kind of vague references of "or else" etc..
But judging by how he has been "negotiating" lately, I wouldn't be surprised if the uptick in threats and all the travel warnings being issued are just a new level in his threat matrix. Guess we will have to see.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:18 pm to BayouBengal51
Hell, at this point we are just as likely to get a truth social post from Donald saying that he never said that and the reports are fake news.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:28 pm to TulsaSooner78
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Now, Iran is openly admitting to Trump's negotiators that they have 1000 lbs of 60% enriched uranium, but Trump, the 4D chess-playing deal-maker, can't convince Democrats, and even a few Pubs, to support his war with Iran.
As I recall the climate back then, GWB did not spend 24/7 publicly accusing Democrats of treason for anything and everything. Trump has made it exceedingly clear that he does not want anyone on his side who isn't subservient to him. That makes it very difficult to build a coalition.
But despite that, if Trump went to Congress with an actual plan and a specific request for authorization, he could pull several democrats in to support the action, especially in light of Iran's hostilities in the Strait of Hormuz and the bombing of neighboring allied nations. No one wants the energy markets to collapse for lack of supply.
In order to get it done, Trump would have to come forward respectfully and actually ask for support. Trump will never do it because he is a narcissist, but if he did, he could get a specific authorization passed.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:30 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:33 pm to TBoy
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As I recall the climate back then, GWB did not spend 24/7 publicly accusing Democrats of treason for anything and everything.
Why do you democrats always accuse the other side of doing what you do?
Trump is a literal Nazi and a direct threat to democracy according to team democrat since 2015
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:44 pm to TBoy
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In order to get it done, Trump would have to come forward respectfully and actually ask for support. Trump will never do it because he is a narcissist, but if he did, he could get a specific authorization passed.
I just don't see it. What Democratic Senator would vote for that? Plus, you know Paul and a couple of other Republicans would oppose.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:48 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Hell, at this point we are just as likely to get a truth social post from Donald saying that he never said that and the reports are fake news.
We are probably a week or so away from claiming the nuclear dust was destroyed
They might have a little bit of dust, probably none. Zero dust. Can’t do anything with dust. Our beautiful men, strong men, dropped big bombs on it.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:53 pm to TBoy
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if Trump went to Congress with an actual plan and a specific request for authorization, he could pull several democrats in to support the action
Fetterman...that's it.
You folks can't ever tell the truth. No other democrats would give an AUMF to Trump because it would look like a win...for him. Y'all can't have that at any cost.
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