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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:27 am to
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40954 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:27 am to
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1. Hell will rain on Iran
2. market dips
3. deal might happen - we are here
4. deal is almost done
5. hell will rain down on iran


We have moved to stage 4

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Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3365 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:33 am to
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• Hezbollah rejects the Washington Declaration and direct Lebanon-Israel talks.

• Hezbollah says disarming the group is a red line.

• Hezbollah demands a full Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon.

• Hezbollah says any ceasefire must cover all of Lebanon

• Hezbollah says resistance will continue as long as Israeli forces remain in Lebanon.

• Hezbollah says it has made no commitment to stop attacks.

• Hezbollah warns northern Israel “will not be safe” while Lebanese villages are under attack.

• Hezbollah rejects any foreign involvement in decisions regarding its weapons.

• Hezbollah calls on the Lebanese government to end direct negotiations with Israel.

• Hezbollah says national unity against Israel should take priority over internal political disputes.


It is great the Lebanon and Israel have signed an agreement, but was it outlined in the agreement exactly how Lebanon is supposed to rid itself of all non-state actors?

I'm not sure they have the military power to take on Hezbollah themselves.

Are the US and / or Israel allowed to provide support?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
55148 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:34 am to
"Deal is almost done because I have no negotiation leverage"
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27599 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:35 am to
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But doesn't the Deep State want war with Iran?


The deep state wants wars that last many years. Fighting all the way. They would also prefer boots on the ground so that their are many kia as well.

They will also vote no if it is not a DS player and they know the war will happen regardless.

This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 7:42 am
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
18129 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:49 am to
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"Deal is almost done because I have no negotiation leverage"


When you threaten to blow up their bridges and power plants then do nothing this is the outcome.
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1811 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:09 am to
The reason Israel backed out of the Sinai is because they got guarantees from the USA of military support and arms as a part of that deal.

I never said Israel wants to conquer everyone, but this statement lines up with your complete ignorance of Israel’s history in the region.

Israel has been encroaching on its neighbors for decades, setting up military encampments in other countries and forcing out the residents. Then they send in Jewish settlers to squat on that land.

It is also ludicrous to say they haven’t shot at their neighbors, they have literally put snipers on their border and killed children in bordering countries.

If Israel is the peace loving nation that is so good to its neighbors then why can’t they get along with them? Why does Israel have to have the USA as it’s military bully to do their dirty work?
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 8:51 am
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13924 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:25 am to
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4. Deal is almost done
quote:

We have moved to stage 4

I think this is our 3rd time circling past stage 4
Posted by themunch
in motion
Member since Jan 2007
72892 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:46 am to
When you threaten to blow up their bridges and power plants then do nothing this is the outcome.

Who is standing in the way as usual?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13924 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:56 am to
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Who is standing in the way as usual?

You tell us.

Are you saying that the Democrats are the reason Trump is not prosecuting this war in an aggressive fashion? Is that where we are now?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27599 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:05 am to
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If Israel is the peace loving nation that is so good to its neighbors then why can’t they get along with them?


I am far from on expert on such matters but I am going to throw out a wild guess anyway. I am guessing it has something to do with the daily launching of missiles at them that has been going on for years.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5708 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:20 am to
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but was it outlined in the agreement exactly how Lebanon is supposed to rid itself of all non-state actors?


Did they even define a “non-state” actor? A significant number of its parliament and military are also openly card carrying hezbollah members.

Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
111195 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:51 am to
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You make it sound like every Joe Sixpack Iranian has received SEAL training.


Only if SEAL stands for Such Easy Animal Loving.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11983 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:52 am to
Non-State actor would mean any non official government entity or military inside of Lebanon, AKA IRGC and Hezbollah.

It would be a tough uphill battle to accomplish as you said, as many of their military and parliament are known Hezbollah members.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11983 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:53 am to
Shocking development, Hezbollah slinging rockets and missiles at Israel..

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Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11983 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:55 am to
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
6177 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:01 am to
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Who is standing in the way as usual?

Are you saying that the Democrats are the reason Trump is not prosecuting this war in an aggressive fashion? Is that where we are now?


It’s actually me and other weak message board posters. I think this conflict is dumb and have said so on this message board. So now we can’t kill a million Iranians even though they are totally being d!cks right now and we totally could.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
111195 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:04 am to
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It is also ludicrous to say they haven’t shot at their neighbors, they have literally put snipers on their border and killed children in bordering countries.



I've talked to a few Veterans here who had to kill children, usually because the backwards Muslim fricks strapped bombs to those children.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76734 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 11:14 am to
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Hezbollah is rejecting the ceasefire agreements signed by Lebanon and Israel yesterday. I know shocking right?

It never made sense, flying Lebanese government reps in to meet with the Israelis to discuss peace. Hezbollah has never recognized the authority of the Lebanese government to control it, and the Lebanese government can't control — nor speak for — Hezbollah. It was dumb and pointless, but the charade played on.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3365 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 11:23 am to
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Are you saying that the Democrats are the reason Trump is not prosecuting this war in an aggressive fashion? Is that where we are now?


Dumbass GWB was able to convince Democrats to support his dubious invasion of Iraq based on claims of some mythical WMD.

Now, Iran is openly admitting to Trump's negotiators that they have 1000 lbs of 60% enriched uranium, but Trump, the 4D chess-playing deal-maker, can't convince Democrats, and even a few Pubs, to support his war with Iran.
Posted by Scorpio58
Da Bayou
Member since Oct 2020
718 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:11 pm to
Trump is scared the IRGC will kill his children after the supposed attempt on his daughter. Ever since this has come out, he keeps saying we are close to a deal. Only deal he wants is his children safe!
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