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re: Official Debate Thread: Trump vs. Kamala—ABC @ 8cst

Posted on 9/11/24 at 5:44 am to
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 5:44 am to
Nope. I’m probably like the vast majority of everyone else who engages enough to make some sort of considered decision as to whom to vote - there’s been a thousand reasons already to come to a rather strong decision one way or the other.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 6:10 am to
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And you’re convinced that there are just that many people still buffaloed over who to vote for, desperately gluing themselves to the TV for a single debate, thinking it’s going to come to them once they view the debate?


You’re just not getting this

Kamala had have a good performance or it could mean the end of her run. She’s the main unknown. People don’t know as much about her. They see memes about her cackling and clips of her speaking nonsense but haven’t really seen her in live action. This was the chance to see her live and had she confirmed the belief that she’s a buffoon, you could nail the coffin shut on her campaign and we circle round and sing joyful hymns about how glorious things are going to be now that the witch is dead and trump will win.

But that did NOT happen!

She did well.

She dispelled the belief that she is a buffoon in live action. She can stand on her feet and hold her ground. She did it. We all saw it.
She had a good performance

As such, we cannot shut the door on her campaign. We have to deal with her. Trump has more work cut out for him.

The problem I see tho is that there’s a cockiness with trump and a lot of his supporters.
It’s like they cannot fathom a loss unless of course, it’s fraudulent. Chances of a fraudulent election are slim tho. Trump isn’t an idiot. He’s been through this and knows the tricks. He has his daughter in law overseeing things. No chance for democrats to get away with cheating.

Trumps work is cut out for him and he needs to take this seriously.
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 6:12 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 6:11 am to
Did you need this debate to make you figure out who to vote for?
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16047 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 6:16 am to
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Did you need this debate to make you figure out who to vote for?


I didn’t. I live in Louisiana anyway and it wouldn’t matter if I did. My decision is beside the point though.

If trump had done well and Kamala floundered, this thing is over. And that’s what I wanted to see. In the least, I wanted to see Kamala fail and trump do “okay”.

Neither of the above happened though.

I wanted to see Kamala confirm that she’s a cackling idiot unlikeable bitch but that did not happen. If she had failed, we could nail the cover on her campaign. Support would have dried up for her both monetarily and personally.

She came through fine though.
Trump has his work cut out for him.

Again, I’m in Louisiana and it does not matter
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 6:40 am
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 6:47 am to
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 6:48 am to
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Again, I’m in Louisiana and it does not matter



Blame the terrible electoral college system we have.. I have lived in red states, and i have lived in blue states.. never in my life has my vote for POTUS ever counted.. i still vote b/c if you dont vote you can’t bitch.. but there are only a handful of states in America where your vote matters, otherwise they are gonna go the way they’re gonna go .
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5059 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 6:49 am to
I think the conservative guy on CNN (i know) last night had it right when he said “How can our side complain about the refs, when we can’t even make a single shot ?”
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
2457 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:22 am to
I turned it off after the first question, because the bitch flat refused to answer it as it was posed. Instead, she was allowed a 2 minute rant on how she had 2 mom's and all the free money she wanted to give away at US taxpayer expense.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112714 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:38 am to
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Blame the terrible electoral college system we have.




For frick's sake
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Member since Jul 2004
Member since Aug 2011
9375 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:59 am to
Doesn’t help that the refs were blowing the whistle while packing our layup attempts
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32429 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 8:09 am to
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Yes, groceries are higher, only bc of Corp greed!


do you understand the difference in revenue and profit? costs are higher so they have to charge more. their profit margins are not higher than they used to be
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35066 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 8:10 am to
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Record profits for corps!! They aren't hurting, and we keep buying


I can’t believe there are people as stupid as you walking around. We are doomed.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4646 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 9:13 am to
It’s too bad nobody cares about her policies. All I saw was the typical cocky neck swinger who would whip out her cell phone to make a video, as well as a cackle. In no way do I see any world leader respecting her. I read someone saying her earrings had speakers, but I don’t know why that matters. Not that Trump did great, but she’s an idiot.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8394 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 10:51 am to
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There’s no one supporting the notion that trump won this. Even his most ardent supporters admit that she did well and he didn’t.


Fact check: not true. Trump is insisting he won. Also many, many of his big supporters in social media are now coming around to the narrative and calling him the winner after immediately calling for things like ABCs moderators to be imprisoned, desperately trying to make the eating cats claim valid etc.
Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
1476 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 10:59 am to
What part could you not comprehend?
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7133 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:09 am to
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He just said his normal generic unprepared improv act and missed every opportunity to hit back. He completely missed because he thinks he's so witty he doesn't have to do anything but show up


So many missed opportunities. I know he will say it a thousand times more, but "people say I did the best ever" or "nobody has ever done that before till I did" should not be in any political speech or debate.

Because he talked about dogs and cats instead of property right and illegal immigration, all the media is talking about dogs and cats today.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7133 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:11 am to
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All that said, exactly how was Trump supposed to not only be prepared for a “normal” debate situation which itself is hard enough, ie preparing for the opponent herself, but also the wholly separate opponent in the damn moderators themselves? Imagine any other person taking on that significantly unfair battle? It just seems like there’s a concerted effort to deprive Trump of some points in his favor in this and other similar matters.


What a more controlled speaker would do is ignore the baiting by both Kamala and the moderators and just make their points. You hear candidates all the time ignore the questions or the other people...just make your points over and over. Yes, he wasn't rabid dog level of uncontrolled, but he did make it about her a lot.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16047 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:23 am to
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Fact check: not true. Trump is insisting he won. Also many, many of his big supporters in social media are now coming around to the narrative and calling him the winner after immediately calling for things like ABCs moderators to be imprisoned, desperately trying to make the eating cats claim valid etc.


I guess I should have made clear that no one but trump and the trump partisans believe he won it.

The fact is- he did not win it. That’s not even debatable.

But let’s just say that neither won it.

What’s most important is that Kamala didn’t fail. We needed her to fail and bolster the belief that she can’t stand toe to toe and battle with big dogs. She did it and she did it quite well.
I say that and and I cannot friggin stand her
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4646 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:24 am to
So did they really fact check her? Did she spew Obama rhetoric? Was she wearing earring headphones? Not being snarky, just asking. I turned it off after the immigration bc I couldn’t stand her.
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