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re: Oberlin College hit with maximum PUNITIVE DAMAGES (capped at $22 million by law) in Gibson

Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:03 pm to
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This guy gets it. 

And that doesn’t mean I don’t think the bakers aren’t right and deserve some compensation.




They should be awarded financial compensation from the dumbass students and faculty that led the protests. Oberlin College should not however, this is a very dangerous precedent, and the people supporting this are going against the very idea of free speech but "muh liberal arts college bad, must lose" even if it means going against what they claim to stand for.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20105 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:05 pm to
Umm, what?

So when was the last time a conservative group from a college performed a group activist protest causing damages which was implicitly supported and explicitly condoned by a university?
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14478 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:05 pm to
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I hope this puts Oberline out of business


Dunno about that


quote:

I hope it opens up a wave of lawsuits against these academic elitist pricks all over the country.


Now that it is a very real threat, university lawyers might be informing their clients about how they need to rein it in.

That would be a nice victory.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32524 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:06 pm to
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They should be awarded financial compensation from the dumbass students and faculty that led the protests. Oberlin College should not however

If the faculty and administrators were acting in the scope of their employment at Oberlin and using Oberlin equipment to further the libel, then it's absolutely proper that Oberlin is being held responsible.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20105 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:08 pm to
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Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18004 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:08 pm to
The freaking campus attorney insulted the judge and the jury when the original damages were announced. I said when that happened they are going to get slaughtered on punitive.

Here are the facts of the case:

Bakery tried to stop thief.
Dean at college cried racism on thief's behalf.
College provided equipment, canceled classes and encouraged students to protest and boycott bakery.

The endowment of Oberlin is $900 million, so this isn't going to shut them down, but hopefully it will shut them up.
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:10 pm to
It really doesn't matter, this will get slapped down in the appellate court.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42517 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:11 pm to
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I hope this puts Oberline out of business


For sure - and all their execs need to be held personally liable as well - break these bastards

quote:

hope it opens up a wave of lawsuits against these academic elitist pricks all over the country.


Absolutely - In fact I'd like to see some activist conservatives give these pricks a taste of their own medicine - follow the elite pricks around shouting "WE WANT FREE SPEECH and WE WANT IT NOW!!!!!" while they are out to dinner.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:12 pm to
These are the same students who protested their own college's cafeteria for the sushi (yes, Sushi!) being available to eat. The available sushi was cultural appropriation.
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Umm, what? 

So when was the last time a conservative group from a college performed a group activist protest causing damages which was implicitly supported and explicitly condoned by a university?

Not saying it has, but if in the future a conservative group does lead a protest against a liberal business there will now be precedent to hold the college liable unless they college stops it. Which is a direct violation of free speech. You idiots need to look at this from a larger viewpoint. This ruling is an attack on free speech.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78908 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:15 pm to
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They should be awarded financial compensation from the dumbass students and faculty that led the protests. Oberlin College should not however


So if a guy at Exxon starts throwing gasoline into the river, only the guy should be held responsible?
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20105 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:15 pm to
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unless the college stops it.


That’s not what the lawsuit alleged. It alleged the college played a role in contributing to the damages, not that they “failed to stop it” while acting neutral.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:17 pm to
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This is an important win in the fight against cultural Marxism.


People the left smear as racist/sexist/whateverist need to start suing for defamation en masse.
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1183 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:17 pm to
I'm no 1A expert, but I believe the linchpin in the college's libel was dean of Students organizing the protests. She even went to the bakery with a bullhorn along with add'l faculty. The college also cancelled their contract with the bakery. A lot of egregious facts in this case.
Posted by Walter Kovacs
The End Is Nigh
Member since Jun 2019
175 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:17 pm to
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Not saying it has, but if in the future a conservative group does lead a protest against a liberal business there will now be precedent to hold the college liable unless they college stops it. Which is a direct violation of free speech. You idiots need to look at this from a larger viewpoint. This ruling is an attack on free speech.


The college was not a neutral party here.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:18 pm to
Go look up vicarious liability & course and scope of employment and quit pretending to speak as if you know what you're talking about
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139779 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:18 pm to
I get what you are saying but Oberlin doesn't have the right to put a business out of business.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20105 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:18 pm to
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t really doesn't matter, this will get slapped down in the appellate court.


What makes you think so?
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

should be awarded financial compensation from the dumbass students and faculty that led the protests. Oberlin College should not however, this is a very dangerous precedent, and the people supporting this are going against the very idea of free speech but "muh liberal arts college bad, must lose" even if it means going against what they claim to stand for.



I would be fine with that.

I don’t agree all the way with the punitive. But I get their point about reputation.

I think some sort of structured settlement would be better for all sides. Payout over years.

Idiots wanting Oberlin to go out of business. That is the cutting off nose to spite face. 3k students. Add in faculty and support staff.

Oberlin is in Oberlin. 8k residents. Oberlin out of business would destroy that community.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:19 pm to
They have an endowment of 3/4 of billion. So not likely.
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