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re: Obama's CDC study on Firearms.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:50 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:50 pm to BamaAtl
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He should first have a word with himself about falsifying data. Then he can start having a word with the rest of us.
So the University of Chicago continues to carry his book and publish the known works of a charlatan?
You're going to have to be more specific. What has he falsified?
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:51 pm to BamaAtl
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He should first have a word with himself about falsifying data. Then he can start having a word with the rest of us.
Says the person that cites Hemminway. Thanks for the laughs!Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:51 pm to BamaAtl
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It's almost as if more guns = more gun deaths...
NO its if citizens own firearms people will be killed by firearms. Only way to stop that is to completely eliminate firearms.
Lets say we can do that. Then in the following year 5000 people are murdered by knives. What do we do now?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:52 pm to BamaAtl
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It's almost as if more guns = more gun deaths...
Thanks for doubling down on stupid! Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:52 pm to civiltiger07
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Lets say we can do that. Then in the following year 5000 people are murdered by knives. What do we do now?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:53 pm to BamaAtl
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military weapons like the AR-15.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:55 pm to civiltiger07
quote:Well, getting stabbed to death is not nearly as bad as being shot to death.
Lets say we can do that. Then in the following year 5000 people are murdered by knives. What do we do now?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:56 pm to BamaAtl
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military weapons like the AR-15.
I love uneducated arguments.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:57 pm to BamaAtl
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You're defining the term wrong, again. Sigh.
Ok you're getting overrun here with differen topics.
Lets simplify so you can respond to each point.
1. Why is the AR-15 a military weapon?
2. What specifically has Lott falsified and why does he continue to be a published author for the University of Chicago regarding his book "More Guns Less Crime"?
3. You said you'd like to see "Stricter gun control laws". Please explain what you'd like to see.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:00 pm to SidewalkDawg
Here, I'll sum up BamaATL's argument:
"I don't think you should have guns because I said so."
But I expect nothing less from this board's number one totalitarian statist.
"I don't think you should have guns because I said so."
But I expect nothing less from this board's number one totalitarian statist.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:04 pm to Centinel
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"I don't think you should have guns because I said so."
I don't think BamaATL's argument comes from a place of malice.
I think He/she is empathetic to people who are victims of crimes they think can be prevented by removing the tool. It's a psychologically comfortable assumption to make. I just want them to explain their position better and get away from the tired stereotypes thrown around this board all the time.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:06 pm to SidewalkDawg
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I don't think BamaATL's argument comes from a place of malice.
Then you haven't been paying attention to the other threads she posts in.
Although I wouldn't necessarily call it malice, more along the lines of "I know what's best for you, so you should be made to obey."
Tons of arrogance, a bit of narcissism, topped with a health dose of smug.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:08 pm to Centinel
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Tons of arrogance, a bit of narcissism, topped with a health dose of smug.
When you feel like you're arguing over the very lives of innocent people, I think it's easy to get to this place.
From her point of view, we are in the way and preventing people from stopping this violence.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:22 pm to BamaAtl
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firearms fatalities
This isn't an important statistic.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:23 pm to SidewalkDawg
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I don't think BamaATL's argument comes from a place of malice.
Maybe not. It's nearly always rooted in ignorance and emotion, though.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:24 pm to SidewalkDawg
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feel
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arguing
This is her biggest problem.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:41 pm to BamaAtl
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Lots more people are murdered with firearms because it's easier to successfully kill someone with a gun than with a knife for most people.
You are conflating the two. You are more than likely to be knifed in the USA than you are to be shot. Statistics prove this. Now of course you are going to have more deaths in a shooting than being knifed.
This doesn’t help your argument. And you are lying through your teeth, yet again.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:43 pm to BamaAtl
quote:yes, it did. my word it's in almost every post of this very thread
A) they don't
quote:as i said, not relevant. the results speak for themselves.
this paper didn't have independent results
quote:you are seriously acting like you've never seen a study that contradicts gun control? not even the ones posted on this board?
They don't, but sure, let's see a link of whatever you think bolsters your inaccuracy
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Everyone agrees the 2nd amendment has some limits
what the frick is this? quote:says who? are you not even reading this thread?
our lax gun control laws are killing more Americans
quote:as if chicago just doesn't even exist. heck, there is even a thread about how australia's gun control laws may not have been effective like libs think they are
We can reduce the number of Americans killed by enacting stricter gun control laws
this blithe hand waving of facts makes it hard for me to not put bamaatl in category 4
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:25 pm to SidewalkDawg
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I don't think BamaATL's argument comes from a place of malice.
It's emotion over reason
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:27 pm to SidewalkDawg
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So the University of Chicago continues to carry his book and publish the known works of a charlatan?
Charlatan's a little harsh. He just manipulated survey data and refused to share his results. And everyone who's replicated his work has found the opposite result. That's why he published in a book instead of a peer-reviewed journal.
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What has he falsified?
His survey results that show the number of DGUs per year.
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