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re: Obama's CDC study on Firearms.

Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:36 pm to
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Lets see this data?


LINK

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Also, are you including justified homicides in this?


What? Of course not. Because that so rarely happens as to be ignorable.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:37 pm to
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So how do explain the difference between number of people murdered with knifes and the number of people murdered with rifles?


Lots more people are murdered with firearms because it's easier to successfully kill someone with a gun than with a knife for most people.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:39 pm to
Oh awesome more papers written by doctors that you have to pay to read. Doctors need to stick to finding a cure for cancer.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:40 pm to
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Oh awesome more papers written by doctors that you have to pay to read.


Sorry you're poor?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14037 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:41 pm to
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So how do explain the difference between number of people murdered with knives and the number of people murdered with rifles?


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Lots more people are murdered with firearms because it's easier to successfully kill someone with a gun than with a knife for most people


answer my question. We all know you think AR-15's should be banned/restricted. So answer my question.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14037 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:42 pm to
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Sorry you're poor?


Ah so now the personal attacks. Right on script.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:42 pm to
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Concealed carry prevents crime.



It does not - it leads to more firearms fatalities.


Uh, John Lott would like to have a word with you about how arming citizens prevents crime.

LINK
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57387 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:42 pm to
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It means they're less likely to, specifically with firearms, which usually results in a lower injury rate / fatality rate than if we give them all guns.
So... people that don't have firarms don't use them? Shocked!!! Gun grabbers fall for this trick every time.

I'm never sure if you're gullible or trying to catch others that are.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:42 pm to
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Stricter gun control laws.

You forgot comprehensive. Never forget comprehensive .
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:45 pm to
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answer my question


I did.

Also, I've never said we should -only- ban absurd military weapons like the AR-15.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45821 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:45 pm to
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Lots more people are murdered with firearms because it's easier to successfully kill someone with a gun than with a knife for most people.



But after Britian enacted stricter gun control laws, the gun grabbers converted to knife grabbers...
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:45 pm to
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Ah so now the personal attacks


If you lack the agency or the ability to read and comprehend data that contradicts your false narrative, why are you pretending like you have the answer? You don't even have the question.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:45 pm to
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military weapons like the AR-15.


You're throwing a lot of terms around that we need to agree on.

Why is the AR-15 a military weapon?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:46 pm to
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John Lott would like to have a word with you


He should first have a word with himself about falsifying data. Then he can start having a word with the rest of us.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:46 pm to
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So... people that don't have firarms don't use them? Shocked!!!


It's almost as if more guns = more gun deaths...
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14037 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:47 pm to
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Why is the AR-15 a military weapon?


Here is one. Please tell me which firearm isn't a military weapon?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:48 pm to
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military weapons like the AR-15.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:49 pm to
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But after Britian enacted stricter gun control laws, the gun grabbers converted to knife grabbers...


Here is the study by Joyce Malcom which backs up this assertion.

Violence became more prevalent in the preceding years after the 97 UK gun ban:

LINK
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14037 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:49 pm to
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If you lack the agency or the ability to read and comprehend data that contradicts your false narrative, why are you pretending like you have the answer? You don't even have the question.


Why do these doctors do these studies then require you to pay to read them? If they are so damning to the 2nd amendment shouldn't they make these studies available to everyone to read so that we can fix this apparent issue?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:50 pm to
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. Please tell me which firearm isn't a military weapon?


You're defining the term wrong, again. Sigh.
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