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Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:51 pm to BamaAtl
So are you on record as favoring banning all firearms for citizens?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:52 pm to Centinel
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Actual facts and history disagree with his family.
The guy invented it for ArmaLite for the military. Not sure why you'd dispute this, it's pretty clear.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:53 pm to Centinel
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More cars = more car deaths
more pools = more pool deaths
more surgeries = more surgery deaths
And yet we can take actions to lower the number of deaths from cars, pools, and surgical complications.
Why can't we do the same for guns?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:54 pm to Friscodog
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So are you on record as favoring banning all firearms for citizens?
Of course not, that's even stupider than Clames owning himself by forgetting Dickey had an op-ed asking that the amendment bearing his name be repealed to allow the CDC to research gun violence again.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:55 pm to BamaAtl
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The guy invented it for ArmaLite for the military.
The Armalite rifle was indeed invented for military use.
The Colt AR-15 variant soon after developed for civilian use and did not contain select fire options present in the Armalite rifle.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:55 pm to BamaAtl
So as usual, you just want to link things I've already read. You don't want to discuss it, because you know exactly what happens when you do.
You lose. Again.
Let me know if you change your mind, though.
You lose. Again.
Let me know if you change your mind, though.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:57 pm to BamaAtl
Ban the Internet! Ban navigation! Ban duct tape!
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:57 pm to BamaAtl
When you see a high-speed car chase on tv, do you think about new laws to reduce cars top end speeds? Especially red cars?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:59 pm to BamaAtl
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The guy invented it for ArmaLite for the military.
He invented what became the M-16. The AR-15 was developed by Colt specifically for the civilian and law enforcement communities.
They are not the same rifle. Do you know why?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:59 pm to BamaAtl
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Why can't we do the same for guns?
We did in 1934.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:12 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You don't want to discuss it
I'm happy to discuss it, but you've shown time and again that you're not interested in that.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:13 pm to SidewalkDawg
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The Armalite rifle was indeed invented for military use.
The Colt AR-15 variant soon after developed for civilian use
I'm glad we can agree that the AR-15 was developed for military, not civilian, use.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:13 pm to BamaAtl
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I'm glad we can agree that the AR-15 was developed for military, not civilian, use.
But that's not the rifle that you want banned.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:14 pm to wickowick
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When you see a high-speed car chase on tv, do you think about new laws to reduce cars top end speeds?
Do we have an epidemic of deaths due to high speed chases from cars (red cars?) in this country? Moreso than other comparable countries? And do we have one political party dead-set against doing anything that may reduce the number of lives lost in said epidemic?
No? Then, nope.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:15 pm to SidewalkDawg
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But that's not the rifle that you want banned.
It is. Once Colt bought the rights to it from Armalite, it shared the same lineage.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:17 pm to BamaAtl
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It is. Once Colt bought the rights to it from Armalite, it shared the same lineage.
The weapon you're referencing became the M16, and then M4.
The AR-15 was specifically developed for civilian use. But of course you ignored my post that stated such.
The M16/M4 is not the same weapon as the AR-15.
Again, do you know why?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:19 pm to BamaAtl
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It is. Once Colt bought the rights to it from Armalite, it shared the same lineage.
No it's not, the Colt AR-15 is not select fire.
It shares the same lineage, but it is absolutely not an assault rifle.
The traditional definition of an Assault rifle was the capability to perform automatic fire. It wasn't until recently that they arbitrarily decided to rebrand a semi-automatic rifle with the same appearance as an Assault Rifle.
Functionally the civilian AR-15 is no different than any other magazine fed rifle or pistol.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:20 pm to Centinel
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The weapon you're referencing became the M16, and then M4.
And in 1964, the AR-15.
Not sure why you're so confused here, they even kept the AR in the name to help you out...
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:21 pm to BamaAtl
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And in 1964, the AR-15.
Not sure why you're so confused here, they even kept the AR in the name to help you out...
You're being willfully ignorant on this point.
What was designed for military use had a select fire feature.
What was designed for civilian use does not have this capability.
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