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re: Obama's CDC study on Firearms.

Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46352 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:11 pm to
I notice that you use the word “we” a lot, who are you referring to with that reference?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:11 pm to
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I looked back - there were no valid questions.

If we achieve the numbers of those nations.........and we have another school shooting, will you be looking for more gun laws?

Yes or No?

You said we need to achieve their numbers and you'd be happy and therefore, shut the frick up on it. I'm simply testing to see if that's true.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:12 pm to
I'm really glad I directed BamaAtl to this thread. It's more than paid off.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45856 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:12 pm to
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What is the difference between an AR-15 and Mini-14, with details please.


Still waiting on this.

That and the statistics on what weapon constitutes the most "gun violence", the demographics of said "gun violence", and why said violence drops off like a rock outside of said demographic areas.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:13 pm to
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I'm really glad I directed BamaAtl to this thread. It's more than paid off.


Did he need your direction?

Firearms are like his number 2 bat signal behind health care threads.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:13 pm to
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You refuse to accept the testimony and the opinion of people who shoot, maintain, develop, tested, and relyed on firearms in literal life and death situations because they may be biased?


Correct, because shooting and maintaining a gun has no bearing on one's ability to determine the effectiveness of gun control solutions in a wider population.

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So we should all just listen to people who have never shot, maintained, developed, tested, or depended on firearms?


No, we should all realize that sleeping next to a gun doesn't provide some greater insight on whether a PTP law for handgun purchases will save lives, or other gun control measures.

Driving a car doesn't give you specific insight on whether A pillars should be 5mm larger to protect a driver without significantly impacting vision, engineering skills do. They're two different skillets.

Yet for some reason you think the only people who can determine whether a public health policy is effective in this arena are those who have the most bias around keeping the status quo. It's absurd.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63232 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:13 pm to
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of the Dickey amendment.
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Maybe Walmart could take care of that.
I think they sell Dickey's BBQ sauce (ick)... so you know they have expertise in the Dickey amendment.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:14 pm to
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Don't you think facts concerning firearms are pretty important


I think if you can visualize a 30-round magazine it's unimportant whether you call it a magazine or a clip when discussing whether banning it may save lives. Especially when you have data suggesting it would.

Like I said, it's a stupid shibboleth that you guys think gives you some superiority in this arena, when in fact it makes you look uneducated.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45856 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:14 pm to
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I'm really glad I directed BamaAtl to this thread. It's more than paid off.


Indeed

Then again I can achieve the same thing by throwing a block of C4 in a catfish farming pond
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:14 pm to
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Correct, because shooting and maintaining a gun has no bearing on one's ability to determine the effectiveness of gun control solutions in a wider population.



Unless your position on guns is "ban them all", then actual knowledge of guns would be helpful to deciding which ones to control and how.

Are you too unintelligent to grasp that reality?

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:14 pm to
Well, maybe just a nudge.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63232 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

They aren't gun violence.
They do not appear in NCVS nor FBI stats as such.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:15 pm to
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What is the difference between an AR-15 and Mini-14? With details please.

I'd like to point out you've yet to address this,


I'd like to point out I posted a half dozen links that contain my answer, as well as pointing out to you specifically why you were dumb to continue this question.

You're not helping yourself with that.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

I think they sell Dickey's BBQ sauce (ick)... so you know they have expertise in the Dickey amendment.


The experts, even.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45856 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

They do not appear in NCVS nor FBI stats as such.



You're harshing the narrative bro
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:16 pm to
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Then again I can achieve the same thing by throwing a block of C4 in a catfish farming pond


That can be fun.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:16 pm to
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but I want to hear


AKA "Centinel doesn't have the ability to find what he asked for"

It's okay, champ. One day you'll figure out the googles!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63232 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:16 pm to
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Well obviously we'd need to ban "Speed Loaders" because they make revolvers deadlier.
No. Just the high-capacity assault speed loaders (as defined by Walmart and Dick's sproting goods employee of the month). She's not a gun grabber. Duh!
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 9:17 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45856 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:17 pm to
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I'd like to point out I posted a half dozen links that contain my answer, as well as pointing out to you specifically why you were dumb to continue this question.



No you haven't.

I'm patient though, to coin a certain poster's phrase that you also like to ignore.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:17 pm to
I'll be back. Someone get her to talk about vehicle registrations.
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