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re: NYT: Why Nobody Cares the President Is Lying

Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:00 am to
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19219 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:00 am to
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In the meantime, we must recognize the magnitude of the challenge. If we want to restore respect for facts and break through the intellectual ghettos on both the right and left, the mainstream media will have to be aggressive without being hysterical and adversarial without being unduly oppositional


Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24089 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:01 am to
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e interested in seeing one of these guys dispute anything in that article other than the fact that it's published in the NYTs


Well his claim there is no evidence millions of illegals voted is a complete fabrication. There is contentious evidence, but it's grounded in science.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154573 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:01 am to
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it seems that people aren't just dismissing something because it comes from the opposing ideology and/of party, they are dismissing it because it's critical or Trump, regardless of ideology or party.


I don't mind criticsm of Trump at all. I have my own criticism. I agree with much of what Ben Shapiro has to say about where Trump has erred and should improve.

NYT has earned my disdain and I dismiss them completely. That may be a mistake but I'm willing to miss out on what few articles that would be considered balanced. In other words, I'm not missing much in my opinion. The PT arbiter of right and wrong will likely disagree with me.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 8:03 am
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46136 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:02 am to
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NYT: Why Nobody Cares the President Is Lying




This is the equivalent of Baghdad Bob calling out Honest Abe Lincoln. The NYT has -0- credibility w/any reasonably informed person.

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a want


I'll at least give you some credit for surviving the results of 11/8. When the coronation of Queen Hillary imploded, did they have to place you on suicide watch?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:05 am to
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Well his claim there is no evidence millions of illegals voted is a complete fabrication. There is contentious evidence, but it's grounded in science.
No. There is no evidence that millions of illegals voted.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46672 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:06 am to
OP misinformed everyone. This doesn't come from the NYT, this comes from an OpEd written by #NeverTrump Charlie Sykes.

Great job, liar.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:07 am to
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The irony of the replies here in relation to the topic is comical.



Yep. It's like they only saw "NYT" in the thread title and didn't even bother to read any further.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154573 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:10 am to
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It's like they only saw "NYT"


Haven't they earned this treatment?
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
23894 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:12 am to
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Why Nobody Cares the President Is Lying


This could have been the main title, above the fold, EVERY F*CKING DAY, for the last eight f*cking years.

Odumbf*ck would lie and the NYT would just laugh along with him.

Odumbf*ck's entire f*cking useless life was a complete f*cking lie. And, the NYT didn't give a f*ck.

But, now, one month into the Trump Presidency, "honesty" about things that don't f*cking matter is so f*cking important to these dishonest SCUMBAGS?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:12 am to
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The responses are disheartening. Logic will never sway these people. It's just a game/reality show to Trumpkins at this point.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:13 am to
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Haven't they earned this treatment?



Only to simple minded morons.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46136 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:14 am to
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No. There is no evidence that millions of illegals voted.


Just curious, but why do you think that the CBC & other Democrat organizations are so opposed to anyone investigating the matter of voter fraud?

If there's nothing to it, why would anybody care?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:14 am to
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Haven't they earned this treatment?
Maybe they deserve to be ignored, but if people are going to take the time to comment and not read it, and unknowingly provide support for the basis of the article, then their comments are open to criticism.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:16 am to
This

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Mr. Kasparov grasps that the real threat is not merely that a large number of Americans have become accustomed to rejecting factual information, or even that they have become habituated to believing hoaxes.



And

This

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Instead, we opened the door for President Trump, who found an audience that could be easily misled.


Sums up this board to a T.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
81906 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:16 am to
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There has been a long standing accusation by moderates and those on the left for years that the right lived in a bubble where facts are meaningless and only feelings and beliefs matter
Well then they are projecting.

Feelings and beliefs are all that matter to the left.

Been that way since LBJ
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:17 am to
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If there's nothing to it, why would anybody care?
Well there seems to be nothing to the Trump anti-Semitism narrative.

So then why would anybody care about baseless accusations?

Why would anybody care if the police search their house without a warrant, if there is nothing there?
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14425 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:17 am to
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a want


Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66548 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:17 am to
OP is sort of old news. It was said best during the campaign on here.
Trump's supporters don't take him literally.
His opponents do.
Art of the Deal and all that.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:17 am to
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Just curious, but why do you think that the CBC & other Democrat organizations are so opposed to anyone investigating the matter of voter fraud?

If there's nothing to it, why would anybody care?
Who needs their approval to investigate anything? If the administration believes it to be true they have a duty to drill down into the issue. I mean the very integrity of our democratic processes is endangered if 3-4million illegal votes can be cast in a single election. If I believed that and had the power to look into it, I would have done so ASAP. And there's a political benefit there too. It's win-win for the president. If it's true.
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19764 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:18 am to
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Haven't they earned this treatment?

Jesus. It's the newspaper of record. It's considered the best newspaper on the planet.

I'm sure you'll comment on how they have blown some stories - and they have. But that's what happens in reality from time to time. Sources lie. Reporters screw-up. It happens.

I wonder about the mental state of a person who actually believes Donald Trump over the NYT.
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