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re: NYT shits all over Buzzfeed & Pissgate media

Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:22 am to
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:22 am to
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Not as suspect as pizzagate, but suspect nonetheless.

equally suspect at least

Pizzagate was at least concocted based on something real written by the person alleged and was verifiable

It's likely that some some dudes who rub it to anime trolled the media on this one
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:25 am to
Pizza Gate is a classic conspiracy theory that just got hot for a while

Pissgate isn't manufactured fake news, but it's proliferating a very likely internet troll as fact
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 8:29 am
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:29 am to
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if, in the by and by, you heard something like that about me, I'd hope you'd contact the FBI so that it could be investigated and adjudicated. We have too many holes in our intelligence services as it is.


Posted by VOLhalla
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:36 am to
CNN has repeated that the info in the buzzfeed docs is completely unverified. Their story isn't that they claim it's true but that Russians claim to have dirt on Trump and that the IC has taken those threats seriously.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:38 am to
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Their story isn't that they claim it's true but that Russians claim to have dirt on Trump and that the IC has taken those threats seriously.
You think the Russian have shite on any other American of note?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:40 am to
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VOLhalla


I'm amazed you're able to get enough oxygen to breathe considering how deeply your head is buried in the sand.
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:40 am to
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Pinned Tweet
Peter Thiel ?@Thiel3X 4h4 hours ago

#BuzzFeed, you saw what I did to Gawker. You are next.

Posted by Port Royal
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:42 am to
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CNN has repeated that the info in the buzzfeed docs is completely unverified. Their story isn't that they claim it's true but that Russians claim to have dirt on Trump and that the IC has taken those threats seriously.



BS...CNN claimed multiple IC sources and never once admitted Buzzfeed involvement. CNN chucked what they had left of Journalistic ethics in the trash for the sake of partisan politics. It's what happens when you become a parody of your former self.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:42 am to
This is a perfect time to re introduce real news reporting. Gain the credibility as THE source. Do so by exposing the why behind all the bullshite reporting. America would flock to it. Could be the saving grace for some of the old newspapers
Posted by member12
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:48 am to
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reporting that Teump was briefed on a given topic by the IC isn't second-hand heresay


MSNBC just said he was not briefed on this?!?
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 8:49 am
Posted by WorkinDawg
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:59 am to
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Reporting that Teump was briefed on a given topic by the IC isn't second-hand heresay. And if, in the by and by, you heard something like that about me, I'd hope you'd contact the FBI so that it could be investigated and adjudicated. We have too many holes in our intelligence services as it is.





Apparently it is 2nd hand heresay as it is now being reported that their was no briefing (which was the air-cover making it a "story" to some).

And sure, "I want you to contact the FBI", bullshite. No one in their right mind wants the FBI, CIA, IRS, anyone, snooping around anything. Thats how you get focked.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:01 am to
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Pinned Tweet
Peter Thiel ?@Thiel3X 4h4 hours ago

#BuzzFeed, you saw what I did to Gawker. You are next.


Fake account, of course
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23345 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:03 am to
Just adding to this shite show.

The liars at npr reported on the buzzfeed document and asked a sitting senator from Arizona to respond to the allegations.

Lump them in with fake news
Posted by member12
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:04 am to
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Apparently it is 2nd hand heresay as it is now being reported that their was no briefing (which was the air-cover making it a "story" to some


Either that or the briefing did not include the topic of question. I do not know what to believe.

Either way CNN's cover for reporting and discussing yet another fake news story has evaporated.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:04 am to
The mainstream isn't even pretending to follow any process. Taibbi noted about the WaPo Rusdia story that shortly followed the election that it was unparalleled how the media was ditching its processes and standards.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:07 am to
FWIW, I kind of back the CNN story.

If it's true Trump and Obama were briefed (MSNBC may be disputing this, but I'm not about to give them anymore credit than CNN) on the dossier material, that in and of itself is a story. And obviously they didn't release the underlying details.

Now, arguably, they wet the appetite and begged the question such that it was inevitable it would be released. But while I question CNN's motives, of course, I think they can justify their actions here.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 9:12 am
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:07 am to
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It's good that the NYT is at least trying to keep some of their journalistic integrity in tact.




I sincerely hope they are able to regain some of their stature. Our country NEEDS a well funded, free and open press.

Without the NYT, we would never have heard of the Watergate Hotel, or many other things.
Posted by member12
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:07 am to
There would be repercussions if a NYT reporter did what CNN did. They have a liberal agenda but you did not see them spreading this bullshite.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:07 am to
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The liars at npr reported on the buzzfeed document and asked a sitting senator from Arizona to respond to the allegations.


This is the creeping evil of this. A fringe source runs a story which is BS. Then the mainstream outlets get people's reactions to the BS story. "It's out there. We have to talk about it."

I don't feel bad about it for Trump as he used the same process in his campaign. But it's pretty ridiculous.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:08 am to
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There would be repercussions if a NYT reporter did what CNN did. They have a liberal agenda but you did not see them spreading this bullshite.



I don't know if that is true. I would agree NYT wouldn't do what BuzzFeed did.
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