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re: NYT: Fox Stars Privately Expressed Disbelief About Election Fraud Claims. ‘Crazy Stuff.’
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:52 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:52 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
What theories are you referring to.
I know that you were one of the early and most vocal proponents of the most extreme theories on Dominion. Like, that Dominion had changed (potentially) millions of votes full stop and tilted the election. Before I address further, do you agree or disagree that is/was your sentiment?
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 3:08 pm to TigerDoc
quote:well YEAH! Of course!
You're right. It might not have worked - many patriots would've opted for more based media and it could've still gone down.
Besides antifa JAYDENX was just the thing for his video coverage. Approved by marxian Democrats all over...
That way they could usurp the narrative of that process in continuation of the way they usurped the presidency.
PIGS
Posted on 2/17/23 at 3:27 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
They chose to platform hacks who had no facts and their own contemporaneous words prove they knew it.
They suspected it, but anyway welcome to "journalism" in the 21st century.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 3:29 pm to Turbeauxdog
Posted on 2/17/23 at 3:33 pm to thatthang
quote:Thousands (potentially), not millions. But yes, absolutely with machines wired for internet communication, with shady flash drive adjustments, issues w/ the DVS VMTS in Atlanta, several hundred-thousand illegally cast VBM Ballots, rankchoice settings activated in non-rankchoice locales, a simultaneous middle of the night, unobserved vote count surge in 5 swing states, interference with GOP count observers, extremely questionable VBM verification, etc. you bet your arse there was potential for voter fraud.
Dominion had changed (potentially) millions of votes full stop and tilted the election.
That is a far sight from:
quote:IDR posting anything like that.
100% on the “muh Dominion changed all the votes train!” There was no doubt, it wasn’t “well, that could have happened.”
E.g. We know there were various troubling issues with the DVS machines. We know there we various troubling issues with DVS personnel. We know there were troubling issues withe the DVS VM Test Center in Fulton County. We know there were numerous instances of DVS obfisgating and/or obstructing machine inspections.
Those are knowns.
Those are items which should have been investigated, but more often than not, they weren't.
That was my sentiment.
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 2/17/23 at 3:58 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
They chose to platform hacks who had no facts and their own contemporaneous words prove they knew it.
I presume they were covering other news they had facts to back up at the time.
Why not just cover news they knew they had facts for?
The fact that we have to tip-toe through the tulips here says volumes....
What about *this* theoretical scenario, Doc:
"Facts" and Truth WERE actually known.
The "Goods" were actually obtained.
BUT...Given the high stakes and a certain agenda that required advancement, tOverlords stepped into the fray and threatened unholy-hell of those at every level of the platform. That left the "platform hacks" (your word coinage) holding empty bags & promises, looking stupid (by design.)
Plausible?
Did those that opposed DJT since 2016 have motivation? Control ALL the levers of power, front-to-back? Top-to-Bottom? Did they have a license to play dirty?
Given events and policies and agenda since early 2020 that have made a dumpster fire of America (and world), is it fair to says we are likely 180 degrees away from the potential MAGA vision and implementation?
Posted on 2/17/23 at 4:10 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
quote:
...they could usurp the narrative of that process in continuation of the way they usurped the presidency.
Yup. They control and write their version of "reality" as though we live in the land of Grimm's Fairy Tales written & performed by Woke First Grade Teachers and DC dungeon-meisters.
It's hard to believe people who've followed the bouncing ball for 5-10 years don't, won't or can't see the reality.
This tip-toeing around people and issues began during the pre-Regime of tKenyan. (Remember how even mention of Bamster's middle name caused a tsunami of "RACISM!!" charges from the Usurped Media?)
And here we are still "speaking" in code
THAT didn't happen till 2008. Posted on 2/17/23 at 4:19 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
Also, pay attention to who is covering this story and who isn't.
The Glenn Greenwalds, Matt Taibbis, claim to be interested in uncovering suppression of facts by media organizations, but aren't making a peep about this.
I hear ya!
The paranoia. I don't get it. Especially since we're obviously an open and free democratic Republic, possessing Constitutional Rights, Free Elections and Free Press!
I don't know how anyone could think otherwise of America The FREE®!
(Is...is that Glenn Greenwald? Or Matt Taibbi)
Posted on 2/17/23 at 4:32 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Thousands (potentially), not millions. But yes, absolutely with machines wired for internet communication, with shady flash drive adjustments, issues w/ the DVS VMTS in Atlanta, several hundred-thousand illegally cast VBM Ballots, rankchoice settings activated in non-rankchoice locales, a simultaneous middle of the night, unobserved vote count surge in 5 swing states, interference with GOP count observers, extremely questionable VBM verification, etc. you bet your arse there was potential for voter fraud. That is a far sight from:quote:100% on the “muh Dominion changed all the votes train!” There was no doubt, it wasn’t “well, that could have happened.”IDR posting anything like that. E.g. We know there were various troubling issues with the DVS machines. We know there we various troubling issues with DVS personnel. We know there were troubling issues withe the DVS VM Test Center in Fulton County. We know there were numerous instances of DVS obfisgating and/or obstructing machine inspections. Those are knowns. Those are items which should have been investigated, but more often than not, they weren't. That was my sentiment.
So to summarize, with Dominion you have concerns and you see potential for misdeeds, but you’re not really sure one way or another if Dominion was used to intentionally tilt the election?
If that’s your stance, I see nothing wrong. How could one know either way? But I’ve got a pretty good memory and I’m close to 100% certain that your stance used to be much much harder, more like ‘Dominion 100% tilted the election.’ That’s the part in all this I was focused on: anyone speaking with 100% certainty on such an issue can’t be taken that seriously. If I mischaracterized your initial stance (I don’t think I did, but still), then I sincerely apologize. And I mean that.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 4:45 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
Also, pay attention to who is covering this story and who isn't. The Glenn Greenwalds, Matt Taibbis, claim to be interested in uncovering suppression of facts by media organizations, but aren't making a peep about this.
You have regularly painted these two as Putin operatives for their opposition to American foreign policy and the surveillance state. Your rhetoric about them sounds like Dick Cheney circa 2002.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 4:51 pm to thatthang
quote:
So to summarize, with Dominion you have concerns and you see potential for misdeeds, but you’re not really sure one way or another if Dominion was used to intentionally tilt the election?
judges in recent cases said as much. very similar in wisconsin.
explaining how cheating might have been used isnt actually doing it.
notice posters chose to misunderstand trumps recent new call, to use mail and ballot harvesting where legal.. dudes posted how it was now time to "cheat, like they do."
trump used language they chose to misunderstand.
he said mail is corrupt.
its only corrupt if you cheat. me mailing my own ballot is not corrupt.
he says its corrupt BECAUSE a corrupt person could potentially cheat.
you can be sure some pathetic fans of trump will mail in their meemaws ballot and get caught.
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 2/17/23 at 5:13 pm to thatthang
It’s hilarious to me that FOX is the epitome of everything people on this board claim fake news and liberal media is
Posted on 2/17/23 at 5:23 pm to NawlinsTiger9
What does that even mean, NolaCatNine? Whatever it is, does it factor in the fact that the prevailing sentiment on this board as of this date is a very unfavorable view of FNC? And just for the record, I like it just fine. I take it for what it is, to me. And anyway, no matter the circumstances it’s inferior to the conclusions and views I come to under my own power.
ETA….And to be a little more specific about the confusion I note at the beginning of the post, I take you to infer that FNC is taken as gospel around here? If I’m wrong, forgive me.
ETA….And to be a little more specific about the confusion I note at the beginning of the post, I take you to infer that FNC is taken as gospel around here? If I’m wrong, forgive me.
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 2/17/23 at 5:25 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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It’s hilarious to me that FOX is the epitome of everything people on this board claim fake news and liberal media is
I know, kind of ironic I would say.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 5:27 pm to The1TrueTiger
That’s “false irony”. Happens all the time.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 5:36 pm to Liberator
great questions
that he cant answer
that he cant answer
Posted on 2/17/23 at 5:51 pm to davyjones
The fact that y’all shite your britches about media and tech influencing elections but Murdoch is straight up saying they need to “do whatever they can to help in Georgia” in reference to the then-upcoming senate runoffs
That is as blatant as interference and bias gets, and no one will bat an eye here because it supports the “right” side, pun intended.
That is as blatant as interference and bias gets, and no one will bat an eye here because it supports the “right” side, pun intended.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 6:22 pm to thatthang
quote:I suspect you have me confused with someone else.
close to 100% certain that your stance used to be much much harder, more like ‘Dominion 100% tilted the election.’
My biggest concern with Dominion was with the handling of the Fulton County Voting Machine Test Center, and with Eric Coomer being such a venomous anti-Trump, neo-Marxist. If there was a way to game DVS devices against Trump (and there were several as it turns out), Croomer was/is enough of a political psychopath to at least have contemplated it.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 6:29 pm to cwill
quote:
I thought it was notable to highlight that the democrats had in fact tried to address a number of the stop the steal hot buttons prior to 2020 and Republicans voted them down.
Yet 5 minutes later, when they had full control of everything, they did nothing to “fix” a system they just successfully leveraged to get a stale fig newton elected president— which was the entire premise of my first post in this thread.
Thanks for taking us full circle.
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 2/17/23 at 7:55 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
I suspect you have me confused with someone else.
It’s quite possible. I’m a man, I have no issue admitting it’s easy to lump in an individual voice with the board’s overall cacophony. That said I’m sure we could still find plenty to disagree on.
Have a nice weekend. 
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