re: NYT: Durham has found that clinton law firm used DARPA to get trump server DNS info

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What was the classification of that data?

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This stuff isn't classified.

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What were the restrictions on its use/dissemination?

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Is there some licensing agreement that folks are supposed to abide by?

This article only described DARPA's historical role in this effort. Anyway I think just about anyone can get DNS data from DARPA and other data providers.

Here's the LINK to the NYT article you refer to.

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Emails obtained by The New York Times and interviews with people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss issues being investigated by federal authorities, provide a fuller and more complex account of how a group of cyberexperts discovered the odd internet data and developed their hypothesis about what could explain it.

At the same time, defense lawyers for the scientists say it is Mr. Durham’s indictment that is misleading. Their clients, they say, believed their hypothesis was a plausible explanation for the odd data they had uncovered — and still do.

The Alfa Bank results “have been validated and are reproducible. The findings of the researchers were true then and remain true today; reports that these findings were innocuous or a hoax are simply wrong,” said Jody Westby and Mark Rasch, lawyers for David Dagon, a Georgia Institute of Technology data scientist and one of the researchers whom the indictment discussed but did not name.

Steven A. Tyrrell, a lawyer for Rodney Joffe, an internet entrepreneur and another of the four data experts, said his client had a duty to share the information with the F.B.I. and that the indictment “gratuitously presents an incomplete and misleading picture” of his role.

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Defense lawyers contend the indictment presented a skewed portrait of their clients’ thinking by selectively quoting from their emails.

The indictment quotes August emails from Ms. Lorenzen and Mr. Antonakakis worrying that they might not know if someone had faked the DNS data. But people familiar with the matter said the indictment omitted later discussion of reasons to doubt any attempt to spoof the overall pattern could go undetected.

The indictment says Mr. Joffe sent an email on Aug. 21 urging more research about Mr. Trump, which he stated could “give the base of a very useful narrative,” while also expressing a belief that the Trump server at issue was “a red herring” and they should ignore it because it had been used by the mass-marketing company.

The full email provides context: Mr. Trump had claimed he had no dealings in Russia and yet many links appeared to exist, Mr. Joffe noted, citing an article that discussed aspirations to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. Despite the “red herring” line, the same email also showed that Mr. Joffe nevertheless remained suspicious about Alfa Bank, proposing a deeper hunt in the data “for the anomalies that we believe exist.”

He wrote: “If we can show possible email communication between” any Trump server and an Alfa Bank server “that has occurred in the last few weeks, we have the beginning of a narrative,” adding that such communications with any “Russian or Ukrainian financial institutions would give the base of a very useful narrative.”

Mr. Tyrrell, his lawyer, said that research in the weeks that followed, omitted by the indictment, had yielded evidence that the specific subsidiary server in apparent contact with Alfa Bank had not been used to send bulk marketing emails. That further discussion, he said, changed his client’s mind about whether it was a red herring.

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The indictment also suggests Mr. Dagon’s support for the paper’s hypothesis was qualified, describing his email response as “acknowledging that questions remained, but stating, in substance and in part, that the paper should be shared with government officials.”

The text of that email shows Mr. Dagon was forcefully supportive. He proposed editing the paper to declare as “fact” that it was clear “that there are hidden communications between Trump and Alfa Bank,” and said he believed the findings met the probable cause standard to open a criminal investigation.

“Hopefully the intended audience are officials with subpoena powers, who can investigate the purpose” of the apparent Alfa Bank connection, Mr. Dagon wrote.

In the end, Mr. Durham came to investigate them.

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This is all so embarrassing for you after all those years


And yet somehow you still believe

This is nothing more than a democratic party hit piece. Which is now confirmed. The head fake is that this data is somehow classified, which is an attempt to bury the lead. As of simply stating that it is not classified makes the story go away. Hillary and her team fabricated this campaign year fanfic document and then gave it to the department of justice under the false premise that it was legitimate. Zero evidence of any wrongdoing by Trump or his team. None. Just crafted innuendo.!

But that is the reoccurring theme here. It “seemed possible“ to them, therefore it had to be true. This is nothing but gaslighting, where general Millie and Nancy Pelosi claimed Trump was likely to start a nuclear war because he lost the election. So anybody can make up any outlandish imagined thoughts or story, and that becomes justification? Or a phone call to the Ukrainian president was somehow Trump being corrupt?

Even though we have the full transcript showing nothing wrong occurred. Even after Joe was on video boasting about intimidating Ukraine to call off the investigation which was about to uncover his sons involvement in a pay for play-scheme.

I am sick and tired of people trying to downplay Hillary’s involvement in all of this, while still trying to promote the fairytale of Trump plus Russia collusion

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but why?

why do we have investigations if no one is going to be held accountable?

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Just one possibility among many.

Ever heard of expressions like "going-through-the-motions, to make it look good."

In an attempt to appease/pacify the natives, Kabuki theater, making things appear other than what they are.

Just like when Horowitz, after what seemed to be an interminable crafting of a report that went on for months, even with his oversized staff, made some recommendations for further action on some of what he "uncovered."

Intuition says that he presented them to Barr for further action strongly suspecting that Barr would do nothing.

It took Horowitz off the hook since he was responsible for the "report."

It allowed him the convenience of saying, "well, all I can do is make the recommendations. It's not my fault if others don't find cause to take up the mantle and go further with them."

It's all theater - of the insulting Kabuki variety.

Are there any two bigger pieces of shite than those two? May they both rot in Hell

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It was all bullshite

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Honest question. Could you or I contact DARPA to get this information. A government official using government resources for a private investigation could be something. Creating an investigation into a candidate is an impeachable offense which by definition means a law was broken. Or so the Dims tried to tell us.

The entire Russia fiasco is what Durham is looking into. Sometimes you follow legal avenues to find when or if they crossed the line

I’m hearing that a lot more with this administration that the previous. Look only as far as January 6th.