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re: NYC Medicaid fraud- “home healthcare workers”
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Hmm, would have expected Florida to be up there, they’re a pretty good size state
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:05 pm to Houag80
Yeah. It’s overwhelming.
But the worst part is they are just warehouses for people waiting to die.
I’ll work three jobs to keep my mom out of one if need be.
But the worst part is they are just warehouses for people waiting to die.
I’ll work three jobs to keep my mom out of one if need be.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:06 pm to roadGator
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One trip to a Medicaid nursing home would change anyone’s mind about wanting to stay in one more than 10 minutes.
Most beds are dual certified, meaning they can have Medicaid or Medicare patients in them. But as the patient population skews to Medicaid (where the nursing home is getting $180ish/day (those are admittedly numbers from a few years ago when I knew those things) versus private pay or Medicare (where the nursing home is getting $300-$650+/day), the home skews to shite. Even at 20% of the patient population at private pay/managed care/Medicare, the home could be borderline ok. Below that, don’t put your dog in there.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Elon opening up Twitter has exposed our entire government system as incompetent.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:07 pm to the808bass
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It’s not in the top 200 scams.
And you don’t have data for it.
This fella from the AEI says $6B/year.
I have to imagine that's top 200
Lots of studies in the link.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:09 pm to SallysHuman
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I wish I knew about this when I was providing 24hr in home care to my MIL last January and February.
Stupid me, I thought that's just what you do for your parents and relatives.
Well the poster you replied to supports all of the corruption you are reading about today, so it is only appropriate that they participated in it.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:09 pm to roadGator
My mother in law was on a trilogy machine for the last several years of her life. The curse was that it was very taxing rotating family members to care for her. The blessing was that she passed at home and not in a nursing home (as nursing home nurses are scared to death of trilogies for reasons that no one else can understand and DME companies criminally overcharge trilogies to facilities on a per diem rate).
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
By “scam” you mean following the law. Weird for a lawyer to say.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:12 pm to the808bass
I didn't say fraud.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
And also, laxness by the state in pursuing assets. So, pretty much nowhere near a scam.
For someone who is so pedantic about word usage, you fricked that one up.
For someone who is so pedantic about word usage, you fricked that one up.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:14 pm to the808bass
I do a lot of medicaid planning. We are normally just shifting around assets to make assets exempt. There's nothing shady going on, the laws in my state protect certain assets. So we take non protected assets and make them protected
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:14 pm to TheOcean
Yeah, this “estimate” is based on the states not pursuing repayment from estates. Also not a scam.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:17 pm to the808bass
You realize that every aide in NY has 5.9 patients. In LA it’s 19. You telling me it’s a full time job to take care of 5.9 patients? 20 seems a bit more reasonable. What is the is aide paid?
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:24 pm to dovehunter
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You realize that every aide in NY has 5.9 patients. In LA it’s 19. You telling me it’s a full time job to take care of 5.9 patients?
Yes. They’re not actually taking care of those 5.9 patients. Because they’re nursing home workers. But if they were actually doing it, you could keep reasonably busy with 6 patients as an aide. (In fairness to you, probs a little light. But 19 is criminal and I would be scared for a patient’s well-being if their aide had 18 other patients.)
All of that is a separate topic from the consumer directed care in the OP.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:50 pm to the808bass
They are including all patients over 65. Many say between say 65-75 require no care. This seems like a lot of resources per patient. I guess the devil is in the details. You have to ask how it could be so much difference in NY, CA and the other high demand states vs LA. We know we have a relatively sick population.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:08 pm to Eurocat
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(of course you can say, f*ck you, deal with it, not states problem - I might have had the same position until the cancer was found).
Why would the cancer being found change your position on the government paying a family to do family things?
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