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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
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My sauces lay out, in clear detail, that those injuries that Reid sustained and that he blamed on an accident with exercise equipment, was actually caused by a force field activated by aliens


Huh?


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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
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Huh?


I would like to explain in more detail, but it might endanger national security, and the survival of the planet itself. I may have already said too much.


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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
Adding here to update. Fringy commentary is my speculation

space.com

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Trump Teases 'Space Force' Idea Again for US Military
SPACE.com

Mike Wall Space.com Senior Writer
,SPACE.com•May 3, 2018

President Trump just laid some more groundwork for his "Space Force" idea.

At a White House ceremony yesterday (May 1) honoring the Army Black Knights college football team, Trump again floated the possibility of creating a new branch of the United States military dedicated to securing American supremacy in space.

"You will be part of the five proud branches of the United States Armed Forces — Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force and the Coast Guard," the president told the football players, who were joined by their coach along with West Point Superintendent Lt. Gen. Bob Caslen.


Black Knight was a nod to this???

Image: http://www.dwspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/x.jpg


Image: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Black_Knight_Satellite_%28cropped%29.jpg


Is this remnant tech from a prior civilization?

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"And we're actually thinking of a sixth, and that would be the Space Force," Trump added. "Does that make sense? The Space Force, General. You probably haven't even heard that. I’m just telling you now. This is perhaps — because we're getting very big in space, both militarily and for other reasons, and we are seriously thinking of the Space Force."


Are we on the precipice of something amazing?
I feel that we are


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We have had this since WW2. Trump is talking about stealing it from the deep state. It already exist.


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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
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what would happen if you gave Leonardo da Vinci a garage-door opener,

A question that has plagued mankind since the beginning


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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
Huff Post

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Military Report: UFOs May Have Attempted Rendezvous With Giant Undersea Object
Ed Mazza 1 day ago


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New details are emerging about a UFO sighting recorded by the U.S. military in the waters off the coast of California 14 years ago.

The 2004 incident involving the “Tic Tac” UFO, named because it was a fast-moving white object that resembled one of the mints, was first revealed late last year by The New York Times and The Washington Post.

KLAS, the CBS affiliate in Las Vegas, obtained a copy of a report “prepared by and for the military” in 2009 that details multiple interactions with anomalous aerial vehicles (AAVs) over two weeks in late 2004. The report also discussed the high speed and advanced cloaking capabilities that allowed the AAVs to evade observation and detection.

“The AAVs would descend ‘very rapidly’ from approximately 60,000 feet down to approximately 50 feet in a matter of seconds,” the report noted. Pilots indicated there may have been something in the water as well. One pilot detailed a disturbance up to the size of a football field:


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The disturbed area also resembled shoal water around “a barely submerged reef or island,” but as the pilot flew away, he could see that the disturbance had cleared and seas calmed. Although he never made visual contact with whatever caused the disturbance, the report stated that it may have been caused by an AAV, which was unseen due to cloaking “or invisible to the human eye.”

Another pilot described a disturbance beneath the water of an AAV that “looked like frothy waves and foam almost as if the water was boiling.”

A submarine in the vicinity did not detect anything unusual underwater. If an object was indeed in the Pacific Ocean, “it would represent a highly advanced capability given the advanced capability of our sensors.”


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The videos of the “Tic Tac” UFO caused a sensation when they were first released last year as the Times reported on a secret Pentagon UFO program that has now concluded with no evidence of alien life visiting the Earth. However, Luis Elizondo, the former military intelligence official who led the program, indicated that there was more information the public had not yet seen.

“My personal belief is that there is very compelling evidence that we may not be alone,” he told CNN last December. Other possible explanations include advanced capabilities by the U.S. military or foreign governments that have not yet been made public.


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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
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Black Knight was a nod to this???

Are you saying the name is a nod or that Trump honoring the football program was a nod?
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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
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I did give a TL:DR



Hey, frick these no-reading a-holes.



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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
Yes. Our government does secret shite. And yes. They try to hide the funding for it.

Stop the fricking presses.



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ThinePreparedAni
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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
Las Vegas news outlet

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I-Team: Documents prove secret UFO study based in Nevada


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LAS VEGAS - UFO investigators are hoping to obtain a treasure trove of Pentagon documents that were generated by a once-secret military study of flying saucers and other weird aircraft.

The government confirms there was a UFO program. It supposedly ended in 2012, but the Pentagon has not yet released any reports or files.

The I-Team gives the first look at documents which prove the UFO study was real and was based in southern Nevada.


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In Aug. 2008, DIA posted a solicitation for bids. Weeks later, the contract was awarded to Bigelow Aerospace, the initial amount was $10 million. It required Bigelow to provide a facility that qualified for top secret work. Harry Reid did not influence the selection process. "There was no direct contract vehicle for Senator Reid to take care of a buddy over here in a stake for a contract. That's complete nonsense," Elizondo said. Space entrepreneur Robert Bigelow's interest in exotic subjects was as obvious as his company logo. He'd spent years -- and millions of dollars -- on his own scientific study of UFOs and related topics. For the DIA contract, he created BAASS, a seperate entity housed within his aerospace plant. He hired a team of 46 scientists and investigators, along with dozens of other support personnel.

READ: Statement from a senior manager of BAASS

The agreement with DIA did not mention UFOs at all. It used more generic terms such as future threats and breakthrough technologies, and specified 12 focal points including, lift, propulsion, materials, versions of stealth as well as human interface and human effects, meaning Bigelow's team would study people who reported unusual experiences beyond seeing UFOs. A ranch in Utah, known for decades as the site of bizarre encounters, became a living lab for the study. The study produced volumes of highly technical scientific reports including projections about warp drives and antigravity propulsion. "These studies are so loaded with information," Sen. Reid said. "One thing we learned is over the decades a lot of things happen there's no explanation for. Well there are now."


Bigelow owns the legendary Skinwalker Ranch (paranormal) which they reference above...

Direct links to the DIA documents are at the site above

Title of the docs:

quote:

Warp Drive, Dark Energy, and the Manipulation of Extra Dimensions

Advanced Space Propulsion Based on Vacuum Engineering


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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
Good to see you still going, TPA.


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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
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Good to see you still going, TPA.


I have dialed it back some

Waiting patiently

Working on me and my direct sphere of influence...


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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
I don’t agree or subscribe to everything you post but always enjoy your posts bro. Keep it up


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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
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we have a tax payer funded secret space program...



Seriously you just figured that out


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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
Makes Kim Jung Un think we just might have weapons to take him and his friends out in. New York second........



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ThinePreparedAni
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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
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Warp Drive, Dark Energy, and the Manipulation of Extra Dimensions

Advanced Space Propulsion Based on Vacuum Engineering


I wanted to share this as it involves consciousness, entheogens, “aliens”, and recent mainstream interest in these...

Ultra-Terrestrials

LINK

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Despite diligent, time-consuming efforts by institutions across the planet, human beings have yet to find any universally-accepted proof of extraterrestial life. For many, this is a simple function of the math involved -- the universe is just too large for us to plausibly meet creatures from another planet. But according to several fringe researchers, we're just looking in the wrong place. We should focus, they argue, not on life from other planets... but on life from other dimensions. Listen in to learn more about the strange story of the Ultraterrestrial theory.



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Ultraterrestrials

To the best of my knowledge, the term Ultraterrestrial was coined by author John A. Keel (The Mothman Prophecies) as a catch-all explanation for all paranormal phenomena. Computer Scientists and Ufologist Jacque Vallee also proposed a similar concept.

A quick google of the term will reveal that most people have no true understanding of the concept Keel was trying to communicate. For example, most references to Ultraterrestrials online are to Extraterrestrials, which is incorrect. So what did Keel have in mind with regards to Ultraterrestrials? Let me do a quick breakdown:

-They may be composed of energy, inhabiting the spectrum (wavelength) of energy in which we cannot see.
-They me have evolved on this planet, though they are far older than the human race.
-They feed off of humans, though the implication is via the draining of energy and not the consumption of flesh. Keel uses the apt phrase, 'cattle of the gods' when referencing humans as a food source for Ultratterestrials.
-They are telepathic.
-They can temporarily take form or substance which they use to interact with humans.
-They are not extraterrestrials. Instead, Extraterrestrials are merely a 'mask' they wear.
-They are not Demons, as most religious people would interpret them as. The reason why is because 'Demon' is just another mask they wear, just as 'Angel' is.
-They are responsible for all paranormal phenomena.

Everything from Bigfoot sightings, Ghosts, UFOs & Aliens, Marian Apparitions, Poltergeists, Fairies, Angels & Demons, Loch Ness Monster & sightings of mysterious creatures, among others, are just the machinations of Ultraterrestrials. The implication is that Ultraterrestrials will appear in such guises as a prelude to feeding off of humans. For example, an Ultraterrestrial may stage a Marian apparition to draw in the hordes of believers who subsequently lift their hands to heaven and out pour their hearts and energy to hungry Ultraterrestrials.


Tom Delong (Blink 182) is linked to many of the characters in this thread. He recently put out a book that very much describes the things above.

From a prior post:

Delonge /Podesta connection came to light in the WL Podesta E-mail dump

I have listened to Delonge and read his book. There have been a series of mainstream articles/ individuals come forth to support his claims. I linked them earlier in the thread.

Delonge website with updates

Delonge links the “Phenomena” with metaphysical sources (think gods of old). He specifically mentions Greek gods in interviews. His book connects many “disparate” disciplines as all being part of the same phenomena

Including:
Human development
Religion
Consciousness
Shamanism
Sorcery/Incantations
Channeling
Manifesting things in the sky
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ThinePreparedAni
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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
Regarding interdimensional beings:

Broadly:

The human brain is like a television set that receives inputs. Under normal circumstances we can only receive a few stations that define our reality (perception=reality).

There are hacks that can expand our receivers that allow us to receive other inputs (that are always there, just not perceived).

Drugs (psychedelics)
Meditation /Holotrophic breathing
Technology

Strassman's work (government funded) (linked below) is very compelling. Multiple people reported similar experiences with beings (independent of one another...)

Ancient culture have used some of the above to commune with the spirit world:

-Native American of the southwest using peyote
-Amazon tribes using Ayahuasca
-Controversial.. Moses and the burning bush (theorized to be the Acacia plant which contains psychedelic compounds and is indingenous to that region)


Background for perspective:

LINK

quote:

Drugs and the Meaning of Life
Sam Harris

LINK

quote:

Joe Rogan Experience #477 - Dennis McKenna & Josh Wickerham


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Dennis McKenna is an ethnopharmacologist, author, and brother to well-known psychedelics proponent Terence McKenna. Josh Wickerham is the chief advisor to the ESC, Ethnobotanical Stewardship Council.

http://www.ethnobotanicalcouncil.org


The work of:

Terrance McKenna LINK

He argues that human development /evolution was guided by plants/psychedelics...
Contemporaries argue that much of current suffering/mental health issues evolve from a disconnect from our environment / nature (distracted and mismatched society...)

quote:

Terence Kemp McKenna (November 16, 1946 – April 3, 2000) was an American ethnobotanist, mystic, psychonaut, lecturer, author, and an advocate for the responsible use of naturally occurring psychedelic plants. He spoke and wrote about a variety of subjects, including psychedelic drugs, plant-based entheogens, shamanism, metaphysics, alchemy, language, philosophy, culture, technology, environmentalism, and the theoretical origins of human consciousness. He was called the "Timothy Leary of the '90s",[1][2] "one of the leading authorities on the ontological foundations of shamanism",[3] and the "intellectual voice of rave culture".[4]


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In his book Food of the Gods, McKenna proposed that the transformation from humans' early ancestors Homo erectus to the species Homo sapiens mainly had to do with the addition of the mushroom Psilocybe cubensis in its diet,[25][70][71] an event that according to his theory took place in about 100,000 BCE (this is when he believed that the species diverged from the Homo genus).[21][72] McKenna based his theory on the main effects, or alleged effects, produced by the mushroom[3] while citing studies by Roland Fischer et al. from the late 1960s to early 1970s.[73][74]


Rick Strassman

LINK

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Rick Strassman (born February 8, 1952 in Los Angeles, California) is a medical doctor specialized in psychiatry with a fellowship in clinical psychopharmacology research. He has held a fellowship in clinical psychopharmacology research at the University of California San Diego and was Professor of Psychiatry for eleven years at the University of New Mexico. [1] After twenty years of intermission, Strassman was the first person in the United States to undertake human research with psychedelic, hallucinogenic, or entheogenic substances with his research on N,N-dimethyltryptamine. He is also the author of the well known book "DMT: Spirit Molecule" which summarizes his academic research into DMT and includes his own reflections and conclusions based on this research.


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Psychedelic drug research[edit]
Strassman's studies, taking place between 1990 and 1995 in the General Clinical Research Center of the University of New Mexico Hospital, aimed to investigate the effects of N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT), a powerful psychedelic drug, that is found in hundreds of plants and every mammal that has been studied. DMT is made primarily in mammalian lung tissue, and is related to human neurotransmitter serotonin and the pineal hormone melatonin.

Strassman refers to DMT as the "spirit molecule" because its effects include many features of religious experience, such as visions, voices, disembodied consciousness, powerful emotions, novel insights, and feelings of overwhelming significance. During the project's five years, he administered approximately 400 doses of DMT to nearly five dozen human volunteers.[6][7] Strassman was the first to legally administer psychedelics to people in the United States in 20 years, and his research has widely been regarded as kicking off the "psychedelic renaissance", in which many psychedelic compounds have begun again to be scientifically studied since the early 70s.[8][9]

Strassman characterized biological and psychological effects in his first set of dose-response studies, effects consistent with activation of central and/or peripheral serotonin receptors.[10] His team published a companion article describing psychological effects and preliminary results of a new rating scale, the Hallucinogen Rating Scale, or HRS.[11] The HRS has seen wide acceptance throughout the international research community as a sensitive and specific instrument for measuring psychological effects of a wide variety of psychoactive substances, with over 45 articles documenting its use as of mid-2015. A follow-up DMT study demonstrated lack of tolerance to the psychological effects of repeated closely spaced doses of DMT, making DMT unique among classical psychedelics.[12]

More than half of Strassman’s volunteers reported profound encounters/interaction with non-human beings while in a dissociated state. Dr. Strassman has conjectured that when a person is approaching death or possibly when in a dream state, the body releases DMT in a relatively large amount, mediating some of the imagery reported by survivors of near-death experiences. However, there are no data correlating endogenous DMT activity to non-drug-related altered states of consciousness.[13] He also has theorized that the pineal gland may form DMT under certain conditions, and in 2013 researchers first reported DMT in the pineal gland microdialysate of rodents.[14]

He has detailed his research in his book DMT: The Spirit Molecule; and he co-produced a documentary film by the same name DMT: The Spirit Molecule, based on this book.[15] Dr. Strassman has also conducted similar research using psilocybin, a psychedelic alkaloid found in hallucinogenic mushrooms. In unpublished studies, he administered doses of up to 1.1 mg/kg, nearly three times the doses considered "psychedelic" in contemporary clinical research with this compound.[16] He also had permission to begin an LSD study, but he did not begin by the time he finished his DMT study.




"Breathe"

Breathe, breathe in the air
Don't be afraid to care
Leave but don't leave me
Look around and choose your own ground

For long you live and high you fly
And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be


Run, rabbit, run
Dig that hole, forget the sun,
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one

For long you live and high you fly
But only if you ride the tide
And balanced on the biggest wave
You race toward an early grave



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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
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ThinePreparedAni


You are, without a shadow of a doubt, my absolute favorite poster after I smoke a bowlski.

Thanks for the reading


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re: NY Times: The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program - spin off for aerospace / esoteric discussion
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
It must have been cold there in my shadow,
to never have sunlight on your face.
You were content to let me shine, that's your way.
You always walked a step behind.

So I was the one with all the glory,
while you were the one with all the strength.
A beautiful face without a name for so long.
A beautiful smile to hide the pain.

Did you ever know that you're my hero,
and everything I would like to be?
I can fly higher than an eagle,
'cause you are the wind beneath my wings.

It might have appeared to go unnoticed,
but I've got it all here in my heart.
I want you to know I know the truth, of course I know it.
I would be nothing without you.

Did you ever know that you're my hero?
You're everything I wish I could be.
I could fly higher than an eagle,
'cause you are the wind beneath my wings.

Did I ever tell you you're my hero?
You're everything, everything I wish I could be.
Oh, and I, I could fly higher than an eagle,
'cause you are the wind beneath my wings,
'cause you are the wind beneath my wings.

Oh, the wind beneath my wings.
You, you, you, you are the wind beneath my wings.
Fly, fly, fly away. You let me fly so high.
Oh, you, you, you, the wind beneath my wings.
Oh, you, you, you, the wind beneath my wings.

Fly, fly, fly high against the sky,
so high I almost touch the sky.
Thank you, thank you,
thank God for you, the wind beneath my wings.


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