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NY Times: The Coronavirus Attacks Fat Tissue, Scientists Find

Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:03 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:03 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-coronavirus-attacks-fat-tissue-scientists-find/ar-AARCqfv

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The Coronavirus Attacks Fat Tissue, Scientists Find


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From the start of the pandemic, the coronavirus seemed to target people carrying extra pounds. Patients who were overweight or obese were more likely to develop severe Covid-19 and more likely to die. Though these patients often have health conditions like diabetes that compound their risk, scientists have become increasingly convinced that their vulnerability has something to do with obesity itself. Now researchers have found that the coronavirus infects both fat cells and certain immune cells within body fat, prompting a damaging defensive response in the body.


They are inflammatory disasters
Been known for a long time, “the science”

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“Maybe that’s the Achilles’ heel that the virus utilizes to evade our protective immune responses — by hiding in this place,” Dr. Vishwa Deep Dixit, a professor of comparative medicine and immunology at Yale School of Medicine, said.



Fauci level reasoning…
Not hiding anywhere. These folks are broken metabolically (as are many, see link at the bottom)


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“This paper is another wake-up call for the medical profession and public health to look more deeply into the issues of overweight and obese individuals, and the treatments and vaccines we’re giving them,” said Barry Popkin, a professor of nutrition at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, who has studied the heightened risk that Covid poses to those with obesity. “We keep documenting the risk they have, but we still aren’t addressing it,” Dr. Popkin said.


More biotech though…


https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/met.2018.0105

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Prevalence of Optimal Metabolic Health in American Adults: National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey 2009–2016

Joana Araújo, Jianwen Cai, and June Stevens Published Online:8 Feb 2019https://doi.org/10.1089/met.2018.0105

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Background: Several guidelines for cardiometabolic risk factor identification and management have been released in recent years, but there are no estimates of current prevalence of metabolic health among adults in the United States. We estimated the proportion of American adults with optimal cardiometabolic health, using different guidelines.

Methods: Data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey 2009–2016 were analyzed (n?=?8721). Using the most recent guidelines, metabolic health was defined as having optimal levels of waist circumference (WC <102/88?cm for men/women), glucose (fasting glucose <100?mg/dL and hemoglobin A1c <5.7%), blood pressure (systolic <120 and diastolic <80?mmHg), triglycerides (<150?mg/dL), and high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (=40/50?mg/dL for men/women), and not taking any related medication.

Results: Changing from ATP III (Adult Treatment Panel III) guidelines to more recent cut points decreased the proportion of metabolically healthy Americans from 19.9% (95% confidence interval [CI]: 18.3–21.5) to 12.2% (95% CI: 10.9–13.6). Dropping WC from the definition increased the percentage of adults with optimal metabolic health to 17.6%. Characteristics associated with greater prevalence of metabolic health were female gender, youth, more education, never smoking, practicing vigorous physical activity, and low body mass index. Less than one-third of normal weight adults were metabolically healthy and the prevalence decreased to 8.0% and 0.5% in overweight and obese individuals, respectively.

Conclusions: Prevalence of metabolic health in American adults is alarmingly low, even in normal weight individuals. The large number of people not achieving optimal levels of risk factors, even in low-risk groups, has serious implications for public health.


I see sick people
They don’t know they’re sick…

Mortality was traded for morbidity (live longer and sicker, more $$$, but going to collapse economy /civilization)
Health was traded for convenience

Plenty of market for the well funded band aids being doled out…

Learn to swim
Mom is going to have to intervene…

Godspeed to all when the hybrids are rolled out (they will look like /are us)
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 4:06 pm
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
2986 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:05 pm to
I think you read that wrong; Coronavirus attacks fat PEOPLE.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27969 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:08 pm to
Fat people don't catch chyna flu, it catches them.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16503 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:10 pm to
Wasn't this pretty much known from the start? I also feel like everything is harder on fat people, sort of just is what it is if you're fat
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:11 pm to
COMORBITIES
Posted by Jimmies
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:12 pm to
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Dr. Vishwa Deep Dixit,
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:15 pm to
Wednesday brought that here from her own Dr many months ago.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1533 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:16 pm to
I'm fat, got the Rona, felt like a mild flu for two weeks. Oh yeah, and I'm over 60. I think blood type is more of a risk factor.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26640 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:21 pm to
Been saying this for a year and a half. Anyone with basic comprehension skills could see the numbers and conclude very easily that the aged and obese are at greatest risk of this virus.

Because these are two segments of the population who are a severe drain on health/medical resources, I am convinced that China was developing this virus as a means of population control.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16740 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:22 pm to
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Wednesday brought that here from her own Dr many months ago.



As did I - in several threads. This is why people on a statin medication are 50% less likely to develop severe disease from COVID. It was among the meds I was prescribed by Dr Haider.

Covid requires cholesterol on the surface of the cell to enter the cell. Less cholesterol, less efficient in replicating.
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 4:25 pm
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:24 pm to
I've gotten COVID twice and both times it was extremely mild, I've had colds and sinus infections a hundred times worse. But I carry a low body fat % and stay active.

If only our politicians cared more about stopping obesity than COVID
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21589 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:25 pm to
The blimp population that shops at Walmarks doesn't seem to be diminished.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28901 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:27 pm to
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The Coronavirus Attacks Fat Tissue, Scientists Find

They are inflammatory disasters
Been known for a long time, “the science”





it's absolutely criminal that the CDC has not beat people over the head with this fact. i've seen instagram put a warning flag on videos that have said this.

I'm against racism. I'm against chauvinism. I'm against homophobia.

Hate on fat people all day long. If people want to fix it, encourage them.

But i am all for shitting on people that choose to stay that way and embrace it. They deserve any and all shame. It's the only protected class that chooses to be that way and can change that at any time.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:35 pm to
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Learn to swim
Mom is going to have to intervene…


frick L Ron Hubbard?
Posted by andyv95
Nashville
Member since Sep 2021
1492 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:37 pm to
Damn OP I thought this was about liposuction and covid virus doing work on your fat arse lol
Posted by CC
Western NY
Member since Feb 2004
14864 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:54 pm to
Americans eat garbage disguised as food.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:13 pm to
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Coronavirus Attacks Fat Tissue

Guess I need to break this to my wife.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:58 pm to
If we ate more insects, we wouldn't have this problem. Are right, junior, dig in. Plenty more where those came from.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 6:08 pm to
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They are inflammatory disasters
Been known for a long time, “the science”


Yeah, it is literally first lecture pathology stuff.

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The research has not yet been peer-reviewed or published in a scientific journal, but it was posted online in October. If the findings hold up, they may shed light not just on why patients with excess pounds are vulnerable to the virus, but also on why certain younger adults with no other risks become so ill.

The study’s authors suggested the evidence could point to new Covid treatments that target body fat.

“Maybe that’s the Achilles’ heel that the virus utilizes to evade our protective immune responses — by hiding in this place,” Dr. Vishwa Deep Dixit, a professor of comparative medicine and immunology at Yale School of Medicine, said.


How is this Fauci-level reasoning? You understand that everyone has body fat? The passage seems to specifically focus on the second population group, those young adults with no other risks.

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I see sick people
They don’t know they’re sick…


If this refers to the class of overweight people who insist they are in perfect health, then yeah I agree. This group seems to have a hell of a time with COVID.

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Plenty of market for the well funded band aids being doled out…


What do you mean here? There are remarkably little therapeutics which focus on metabolic factors in instances of weight loss, as you can see depressed TSH and thyroid function for years, among other metabolic factors.

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Learn to swim
Mom is going to have to intervene…

Godspeed to all when the hybrids are rolled out (they will look like /are us)


Wtf?



Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 6:12 pm to
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Hate on fat people all day long. If people want to fix it, encourage them.

But i am all for shitting on people that choose to stay that way and embrace it. They deserve any and all shame. It's the only protected class that chooses to be that way and can change that at any time.



Given the demographic profile and the metabolic factors at play, nothing less than pharmacologic intervention will actually work, unfortunately. The scale of the problem is utterly massive and it really isn't going to be fixed by individual education, as the reality of hormonal factors requires people to lose weight as well as to retain excess activity levels as they age into areas where chronic injuries and other ailments make the necessary activity levels very difficult to achieve.
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