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re: NY Times: Pentagon’s UFO Program - aerospace/esoteric/quantum mechanics/future

Posted on 9/17/18 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 9:35 pm to
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quote: I believe Vril and Thule groups ended up in antarctica.

Read something like that in a book of science fiction once long ago.



https://www.stufftheydontwantyoutoknow.com/podcasts/nazis-lost-civilizations-and-ancient-man-the-ahnenerbe.htm

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Nazis, Lost Civilizations and Ancient Man: The Ahnenerbe


https://www.stufftheydontwantyoutoknow.com/podcasts/did-nazis-really-make-ufos.htm

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Did Nazis really make "UFOs"?
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:11 pm to
More on the missing money angle...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kotlikoff/2018/07/21/is-our-government-intentionally-hiding-21-trillion-in-spending/#70894da84a73

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Jul 21, 2018,10:10 am
Is Our Government Intentionally Hiding $21 Trillion In Spending?
Laurence Kotlikoff


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The origin of our column was a report, released some nine months ago, by Mark and Catherine Austin Fitts. Catherine is a former (under Bush 1) Assistant Secretary of that the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).Billions in unaccounted government transactions ($278.5 billion in 2015 alone!) emanating from HUD originally caught Catherine’s attention in 2000 in connection with subsequent responsibilities as lead financial advisor to the Federal Housing Administration (FHA). Catherine was unable to secure an explanation for HUD’s lost money and became concerned that something terribly inappropriate might be going on at HUD and DOD and in the related financial marketswithout the public’s knowledge. She has remained concerned for years and shared her concern with Professor Skidmore more than a year ago. From then till now, Fitts and Skidmore have repeatedly asked the DOD’s OIG to explain why it can’t account for trillions in apparent irregular if not illegal outlays. They’ve received no response whatsoever apart from acknowledging the requests.


YouTube

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Richard Dolan Show May 14, 2018.

Interview with Catherine Austin Fitts Richard Dolan SUBSCRIBE23K 82928 Published on May 20, 2018

#RichardDolan #Disclosure #PentagonBlackBudget

This episode of the Richard Dolan Show aired on KGRA radio May 14, 2018. It is a two-hour interview with black budget expert Catherine Austin Fitts, former Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1989-1993. Included in the discussion is the recent analysis by Catherine and Dr. Mark Skidmore that $21 trillion has been spent by the U.S. government without authorization -- and is essentially missing. As Catherine points out, this is enough effectively to cancel the entire debt of the United States, and it is almost certainly a low estimate. Much more is discussed in this fascinating interview, including the likelihood that at least a portion of that money is connected to a clandestine infrastructure related to the subject of UFOs.

Richard Dolan is one of the world’s leading researchers and writers on the subject of UFOs, and believes that they constitute the greatest mystery of our time. He is the author of two volumes of history, UFOs and the National Security State, both ground-breaking works which together provide the most factually complete and accessible narrative of the UFO subject available anywhere. UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Coverup, 1941-1973


In the interview she stated that for the longest time she could not figure out where the money was going.

She feels that it is financing off world projects...
Posted by notsince98
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:58 pm to
David wilcock has a great write up on just how much money this is and how completely feasible it is to build an entire civilization off planet with it.
Posted by Hopsondawg22
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 10:10 pm to
Do you have a link on hand?
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 10:54 pm to
I can 100% gaurantee you that we have had a Space Force clandestinely for decades. And when I say “Space Force”, I don’t mean rinky-dink crap like NASA with their ground control and dinky shuttles and space station telescopes. No, I mean f$&king space cruisers and colonies on other worlds and sh&t. There’s a whole fleet up there they don’t want you to know about.
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 12:23 am to
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Catherine Austin Fitts. Catherine is a former (under Bush 1) Assistant Secretary of that the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)
.. and Coast to Coast AM guest.
Posted by TurkeyBaconLeg
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 7:38 am to
If you take all of the info on this thread at face value, it can explain why there has been such a push in the world for globalism. Why do we need countries anymore when there are other worlds?

Something like this needs money. Where can we get money, they ask? Well, let’s exaggerate something called global warming and collect billions from countries and funnel this money into these projects.

If there is $21 trillion missing, it makes you wonder how it was ever collected. Or perhaps $21 trillion isn’t a lot of money. Maybe we are just told false figures about the real “wealth” of our world.

The more and more rabbit holes I go down, the more I realize how much we are not told and how much of what we are told are lies.

We are truly sheep and we are being used. Maybe we are even being consumed in some way. Food for others. They keep us distracted with the shiny objects while the real stuff is going on in the background.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 8:50 am to
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and Coast to Coast AM guest.



Not sure your point here

It gets back to one of the points of this thread:

This “fringe” information by “fringe” people are increasingly showing up in “ reputable” media outlets (reference this thread)

How you reconcile that may be an interesting quandary (discredit the mainstream, or accept the “fringe”). If only we had guidance regarding this choice...



This thread lays out the information to help
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:24 pm to
https://www.newsweek.com/2018/09/28/do-aliens-exist-blink-182-co-founder-ex-pentagon-official-prove-we-are-not-1129299.html

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Do Aliens Exist? Blink 182 Co-Founder and Ex-Pentagon Official Are Determined to Prove We’re Not Alone

BY KEITH KLOOR ON 9/20/18 AT 6:00 AM


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According to the rocker, they disclosed various E.T. secrets to him, one being an alien body in government possession. DeLonge, because of his celebrity platform and engagement with a younger demographic, was chosen to ease out the truth, gradually, and through fantasy/sci-fi stories.

“Why you?” interviewer Rogan asked. “Because,” DeLonge ­replied, disclosure “has to be managed a certain way for people to understand.”

In addition to presenting himself as the designated UFO messenger for the U.S. government, DeLonge discussed Atlantis (the lost continent), how “different alien races were coming here for resource extraction” and how these aliens have genetically engineered humans periodically to goose humanity’s evolution.


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Mellon is referring specifically to data from military radar detection of unidentified aerial phenomena and the cockpit video and audio recordings from Naval fighter jet pilots who have supposedly encountered this phenomenon. The 2004 sighting wasn’t the only time military pilots saw the Tic Tac, says Mellon. Pilots spotted a similar UFO on at least one other occasion; they described it falling down into the water and moving around just under the surface. In addition, says Mellon, “there are dozens of cases in the last few years, not involving Tic Tacs per se but Navy personnel and warships. It is absolutely not a one-off event.”


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Last year, CNN showed the Tic Tac video to Neil deGrasse ­Tyson, the astronomer and author. “Call me when you have a dinner invite from an alien,” he quipped.




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“In the end, I’m not worried about credibility,” Elizondo says. “I’m worried about facts.” Reminded that the only facts the public has are grainy videos, he insists, “There is data. It’s not out yet.”
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:11 pm to
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I can 100% gaurantee you that we have had a Space Force clandestinely for decades.


I need to see that guarantee.
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:41 pm to
That is one FOS guarantee.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:52 pm to
https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/blog/observations-on-potential-uapufo-material-in-possession-for-the-adam-research-project

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Observations On Potential UAP/UFO Material In Possession for The ADAM Research Project
September 19, 2018


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TTS Academy's world-class team of intelligence experts and physicists are the first port of call to research credible accounts of unidentified aerial phenomena. They are laser-focused on advanced physics research that could bring breakthroughs in advanced technology systems. The ADAM Research Project has the potential to discover metamaterials that could launch a journey of new scientific breakthroughs for generations.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:58 pm to
For the ”follow the money” folks:

YouTube

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The Black Budget | Catherine Austin Fitts
secretspaceprogram152,000 views 1.3K 50 SUBSCRIBE 19K
Published on Mar 9, 2015

Catherine Austin Fitts at the Secret Space Program Conference, 2014 San Mateo LIKE

https://www.facebook.com/secretspacep...

Title: The Black Budget: What Does It Mean to US Federal Budget, the Economy and You? Are financial fraud and market manipulations actually mechanisms for financing the black budget and centralized governance necessitated by high-tech secrecy?

Run time: 1.22.34 min
Speaker: Catherine Austin Fitts Produced by: Globalbem Language: English Presentation

UFO technology: Cui Bono? There may be as much as $100 trillion dollars worth of hardware flying the skies powered by anti-gravity and field-propulsion technologies. This has significant implications for the ownership and design of manufacturing and energy infrastructure on planet earth. It also has connections to trillions of dollars which are “missing” from defense and domestic agency accounts (as reported by official financial reports of the US government). To the extent that the US taxpayer has financed this technology (or its reverse-engineering) why should private corporations own it on a secret basis? The financial fortunes and geopolitical power involved are significant. If you control these technologies, you possess weaponry sufficient to engineer a financial coup d’Etat and to centralize control of the entire global financial system.

Bio Catherine Austin Fitts is the Founder and President of Solari. She served as Managing Director and Member of the Board of Directors of the Wall Street investment bank, Dillon, Read & Co., Inc. She also served as Assistant Secretary of Housing/Federal Housing Commissioner at HUD in the first Bush Administration and was the President and Founder of Hamilton Securities Group, Inc.


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Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:34 pm to
https://www.vice.com/amp/en_au/article/59abbx/hunt-for-the-skinwalker-is-the-first-video-released-from-inside-ufo-wolf-haunted-ranch-robert-bigelow

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MOTHERBOARD GUIDE TO CINEMA | By Daniel Oberhaus | Sep 17 2018, 11:52pm

‘Hunt for the Skinwalker’ Is the First Video Released From UFO-Obsessed Billionaire’s Haunted Ranch

The latest film in Jeremy Corbell’s ‘Extraordinary Beliefs’ series digs into the history of Skinwalker Ranch, an alleged hotbed of UFO activity formerly owned by Robert Bigelow.


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There’s something strange happening in northeastern Utah. Over the last four decades, residents of Uintah county have reported hundreds of UFO sightings, dozens of bizarre and inexplicable cattle mutilations, encounters with otherworldly beings, and other paranormal activities. Although these sightings are reported throughout the county, they are especially prevalent on a 500-acre plot of land known as Skinwalker Ranch.


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Corbell has been working on Hunt for the Skinwalker for years, but he told me that the publication of the New York Times story last year about the US Department of Defense “Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program” put his documentary team into “overdrive.” According to the Times, the program was created at the behest of Nevada senator Harry Reid and most of its $22 million budget was funneled to Bigelow Aerospace, a company founded in 1999 by the billionaire hotelier Robert Bigelow, a close friend of Reid. Among the many events studied as part of the secretive program was the now infamous “tic tac” UFO spotted by Navy pilots off the coast of San Diego in 2004.

The premise of Corbell’s documentary is that AATIP is only half the story. Long before the New York Times revealed the Pentagon’s secret UFO program, Bigelow was bankrolling the National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), a “living laboratory” on Skinwalker Ranch that represents the largest ever scientific study of unidentified aerial phenomena in history. Bigelow’s UFO lab was founded shortly before he purchased Skinwalker Ranch in the mid-90s and employed several physicists until its operations were shuttered in 2004. These scientists were tasked with studying the multitude of anomalous phenomena reported by the ranch’s previous owners and locals in the surrounding area.




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In 1974, the plant physiologist Frank Salisbury collected hundreds of UFO reports from residents in the Uintah basin region of Utah, which includes Skinwalker Ranch and a Ute reservation. According to Corbell’s documentary, the Ute in the region have recognized the otherworldly phenomena occuring there for centuries. They characterize these events as the work of malevolent tricksters, similar to the ghostly “skinwalkers” of Navajo folklore.


I will point out that the same can be said about West Virginia (Point Pleasant, Mothman Prophecies)

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The original Native American inhabitants of the Ohio River valley considered the area haunted long before John Keel investigated the Mothman phenomenon in Point Pleasant, West Virginia. Nobody really knows the origin of the area's reputation for anomalous activity, but some believe it may be connected to a centuries old curse cast on the land by an indigenous leader called “Keigh-tugh-gua,” which is translated as “Cornstalk”.


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“We still don’t know what we’re dealing with and that’s the bottom line,” Corbell told me. “The events and phenomena experienced and studied at Skinwalker Ranch appear like a performance by a discriminating, precognitive sentient intelligence."
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 8:24 am to
Regarding:

extradimensional phenomenon
"new" science/physics...

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bizarre-particles-keep-flying-out-of-antarcticas-ice-and-they-might-shatter-modern-physics/

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PHYSICS
Bizarre Particles Keep Flying Out of Antarctica’s Ice, and They Might Shatter Modern Physics
Cosmic rays emanating from the south polar ice cap could lead to new physics



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vice

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Mysterious Cosmic Rays Shooting from the Ground in Antarctica Could Break Physics

NASA went searching for micro black holes in Antarctica. Instead, it detected cosmic rays shooting from the ground and some physicists think it could be evidence of a supersymmetric particle.


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There’s something strange happening beneath the surface of Antarctica and it’s got nothing to do with Nazi UFOs. Rather, researchers are arguing that a decade-old experiment may have furnished the first evidence of a new type of particle that has evaded detection by some of the most sophisticated particle accelerators for years. If they turn out to be correct, it would change physics as we know it.




Think CERN





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Furthermore, some models of physics that are “Beyond the Standard Model” predict the existence of incredibly small extra dimensions. Some of these theories predict that when cosmic rays interact with ice this produces micro black holes that open into these dimensions, which could be detected via the Askaryan effect.


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A second mission ANITA mission in 2009 as well as a third mission in 2014 detected another strange upward-pointing cosmic ray. The source of these cosmic rays remain a mystery, but a number of theories have been proposed. Some physicists think these upward-pointing cosmic rays are evidence of the decay of dark matter that exists in the Earth’s interior. Others have suggested that these cosmic rays can be explained with sterile neutrinos, a type of high energy particle that hardly ever interacts with ordinary matter.


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There was just one problem. ANITA observed the particles coming in at extreme angles—27 degrees and 35 degrees—that aren’t permitted within the Standard Model of physics. This suggested that either the Standard Model would have to undergo “significant” revisions to account for the observation—or, as Derek Fox and his colleagues recently suggested, ANITA may have observed the first evidence of a supersymmetric particle.


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What is Beyond the Standard Model of Physics?

The Standard Model of physics was cobbled together over the course of the past century and currently serves as the most accurate model of the physical universe ever created. It describes most of the fundamental forces and classifies elementary particles.

Although the Standard Model has proven remarkably successful for making experimental predictions over the last few decades, it’s not able to explain everything. Some phenomena, such as gravity, the accelerating expansion of the universe, and neutrino oscillations are not incorporated in the model.




Non-standard times ahead...
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 8:29 am
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 8:27 am to
On the show/docu I think I referenced in this thread-called UFO Chronicles. vvv reputable individuals told the story of wanting past US Presidents to reveal life on other planets.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 8:28 am
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 8:28 am to
Exciting things are happening; here at Burger King.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 7:52 pm to
Corbell states that much of the funding for the AATIP program (from OP) went to Bigelow Ranch also known as:

Skinwalker Ranch

Interesting stuff described below (portals to other dimensions/worlds...)

YouTube

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Hunt for Skinwalker: Jeremy Corbell Interview - Richard Dolan Show Richard Dolan13,732 views 453 32 SUBSCRIBE 29K
Published on Sep 24, 2018 #RichardDolan #UFO #Disclosure

In Richard's interview with Jeremy Corbell on KGRA Radio, they discuss the most famous paranormal hotspot, the Skinwalker Ranch.

You can rent or purchase Jeremy's documentary, Hunt for the Skinwalker, on Amazon Prime:



LINK

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Friday, October 05, 2018
Hunt for the Skinwalker & The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) Connection


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Like most people, I first heard about Skinwalker Ranch from the book, Hunt For The Skinwalker by George Knapp and Dr. Colm Kelleher. I was initially drawn by the stories about a broad scale of paranormal events, and my interest was cemented years later when I learned about the DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) involvement, even though I could not publicly acknowledge it. The DIA attempted to scientifically investigate the occurrences experienced at Skinwalker Ranch. Investigators used the unique location as a “living laboratory,” attempting to understand for themselves the varied phenomena that display on and around the property. One of the aims was to determine if The Phenomenon presented a threat to National Security, and another was to attempt to determine the mechanisms utilized by The Phenomenon. The fact that the United States government was involved at all is fascinating.
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Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:02 pm to
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Hunt for Skinwalker: Jeremy Corbell


Skinwalker Ranch (most of the AATIP $22 million funding went towards studying it...)






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Related phenomenon

Below is in AZ, but very similar events described at Skinwalker...

https://m.williamsnews.com/news/2018/sep/18/cattle-mutilations-baffle-williams-rancher/

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Cattle mutilations baffle Williams rancher


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A cow and a bull were both killed overnight. An ear cut off. A section of hide detached. The scrotum and penis carefully removed. The vaginal cavity gone. The blood drained. No discernible tracks were found near the carcasses, which were lying near an infrequently traveled road. Little blood was found on the ground and the cow was wedged up into a tree as if trying to escape from something.


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“Johnny took me to the bull and I knew right off the bat something wasn’t right,” he said. “These animals weren’t shot, these animals were mutilated.” Using a metal detector, Reidhead looked for any sign of shell casings or bullet fragments on the ground or in the animals. He also noticed few signs of scavenging. “These animals were killed by a drug, they were not killed by any kind of bullet,” he said. “They were basically killed for their body parts.” Reidhead said the lack of scavengers on the carcasses was a clue. “We found the cattle almost a week after they were dead and not a single coyote, not a single bird, squirrel, chipmunk or whatever has even gotten near them,” he said. “Animals that have any kind of bad toxins inside their blood and inside their meat —most predators won’t touch them.”

Reidhead said he is continuing his investigation but so far has found limited signs of human activity at the sites. “The people who are doing this, I would say are professionals,” he said. “They know what they are doing.”
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