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re: NSIAP An actual gun graphic from the BBC

Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:02 am to
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
5176 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:02 am to
If these numbers are correct and I'm sure they are 100% on point. We can own a semi automatic rifle, then we should be able to have full auto guns since they dont shoot as fast. Right?
Posted by MoLiberty
Member since Aug 2018
780 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:17 am to
The Orange Man Bad club said hold my beer.

Black Rifle Worse.

1200 rounds per minute.

Literally Satan spewing hell fire.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17000 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:18 am to
1200 rounds a minute? That's 20 rounds every second, even someone who has no knowledge of firearms should know that is impossible.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:25 am to
quote:

quote:
Explain to me where the frick they got these numbers from?





Their arse..




Come on, y'all, I'm sure they did their research.



See.


Posted by OneFifty
No favorite team now
Member since Aug 2012
3872 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:45 am to
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the barrel would turn into molten lava

My very first thought.

Even after rapidly emptying my Beretta M9 with one in the pipe and 15/clip, you can hardly handle it without gloves.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:51 am to
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Semi Automatic Modified - 1,200

That's a fast finger; bet he can finger a whole stadium of pussy in under 3 minutes
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:55 am to
I want to know...who's carrying those 1200 rounds? They aren't carrying themselves.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87795 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:04 am to
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23218 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:11 am to


Are they calling something like a bump stock a “modified” semi auto? The weapon is limited by the frequency that the bolt cycles, no matter what else is going on.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112859 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:13 am to
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clip


Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:15 am to
I've scrolled through the link 5 times and dont see that graphic

Did they take it down?
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16872 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:00 am to
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Explain to me where the frick they got these numbers from?


Is says right there at the bottom:

"Source: BBC research"

Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25238 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:00 am to
1200 rounds per minute on a semi automatic AR-15

Hell, even 950 on a fully auto is ridiculously inaccurate. You’d have the empty a 30 round magazine and reload the next one all in less than 2 seconds for a 950 round pace.
Posted by Trevelyan
Member since Aug 2019
14 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:02 am to
It’s a ghost gun!!!
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:06 am to


I have never understood why people feel the need to use exaggerated members to prove a point which would be established equally well with accurate numbers. The three bottom weapons can throw a lot more lead than the top two weapons.

Of course, there is also the possibility that someone simply accidentally added a zero to the data for the AR-15 before the graphic was ever generated, and everyone thereafter was simply too ignorant to recognize the physical impossibility of that number.
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 7:21 am
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25969 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:07 am to
But much “they’d be useless against an oppressive govt”...
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:13 am to
And we expect people who have knowledge like this to create our laws
Posted by Mr Wrestling II
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2019
11 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:13 am to
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Semi Automatic Modified - 1,200


It would melt the barrel. These people are beyond stupid.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94833 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:22 am to
The revolver image isn't a LCR - it isn't a Ruger at all, but a Smith J-frame (maybe a 36?)

The semi-automatic pistol image isn't a "Colt model 70 (whatever that is)". Best guess - it is a classic Sig, like a P225, P228 or P229.

No "semi-automatic" weapon is firing 20 rounds a second. I think a trained shooter with an expensive trigger could get off a rate approaching 3 rounds per second, but none of that would be aimed. 120 per minute is about right. The 950 is a little high for full auto rifle. Keep in mind that automatic rifles are wildly inaccurate after the first shot, unless braced or on a bipod.

No surprise graphic is mostly ridiculous, though. No one is more ignorant of actual firearms issues than the average journalist writing about them.
Posted by mets69
youngsville
Member since Dec 2012
236 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:23 am to
In the army I was taught to shoot a three round burst with one trigger pull. So that would be about 180 rounds per minute. Now subtract the time time to take out clip and insert a new one. When you tried to shot more than a three round burst barrel would rise and could not hit a damn thing. This was in the early 70's, I am sure the 16's do not jam like they used to and clips have more rounds.
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