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NPR talks about Trump's impact on the economy

Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:10 pm
Was listening while driving to lunch. About what you would expect with comments that were something like -

"the president really can't control the economy by himself, he can only suggest, so improvements can't necessarily be attributed to him"

"ironically exports have dramatically increased in spite of Trump pushing for a trade war"

"it can't be completely ruled out that some of the improvements in the economy may be attributed to Trump"

They were very reluctant in any positive comments related to Trump.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 12:28 pm
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:16 pm to
It is really sad that you seek validation for another man
Posted by SleauxPlay
Here and there
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:17 pm to
All of these sound like reasonable and relatively neutral statements. To attribute changes in a massively complex system such as the US economy to one person would be foolish.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:20 pm to
You’re a fool if you don’t think Trump’s policies/agenda haven’t influenced the economy.
Posted by SleauxPlay
Here and there
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

You’re a fool if you don’t think Trump’s policies/agenda haven’t influenced the economy.


You suck at reading.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:24 pm to
Oh yeah. That sounds like fair coverage.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:26 pm to
It's NPR. Lefties going to left.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:27 pm to
What a fricking stupid comment
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

To attribute changes in a massively complex system such as the US economy to one person would be foolish.


The media was always blowing smoke up Obama's arse about how he was doing a good job with the economy. NPR was no different.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8002 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

You’re a fool if you don’t think Trump’s policies/agenda haven’t influenced the economy.


Maybe at the margins, but no, Presidents generally don't have a significant impact, positive or negative, on the economy unless he does something far out of the norm (like, say, FDR on the negative side of the ledger). Getting 700 jobs for a Carrier plant back from Mexico is good PR, but that's a rounding error in an economy with jobs flow in the millions every single month. I would say the same thing about Obama and pretty much every President of my lifetime.

I am starting to think the economy is getting pretty overheated right now, and I think we're due for a bit of a correction, anyway. Valuations of all types are insanely high right now, and there isn't the cash flow to justify a lot of it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118758 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

the president really can't control the economy be himself


True.

quote:

, he can only suggest


He can do more than just suggest. A lot more...A LOT more.

quote:

so improvements can't necessarily be attributed to him


Not completely but the Executive Branch has a lot of power to impact the economy. Where and how?

Permitting, e.g. pipeline permits, mining permits, O&G exploration permits, etc.

Deregulation.

Trade policy.

Etc., Etc.

Working with congress, the combination of the Executive Branch with the Legislative Branch has the MOST impact. For example, tax policy and regulatory reform (e.g., Dodd-Frank Glass Steagall Lite, Obamacare, etc.).

quote:

"ironically exports have dramatically increased in spite of Trump pushing for a trade war


There is NO trade war. Exports have increased due to enforcing current NAFTA agreements. Exports have increased due to new additive agreements with Asian countries and reduced Chinese tariffs (from 17.6% to 7.3%). Deals with India. Arms deals with Saudi Arabia. Etc., Etc.

quote:

"it can't be completely ruled out that some of the improvements in the economy may be attributed to Trump"


Agree.

quote:

They were very reluctant in any positive comments related to Trump.


Of course. They don't want to recognize that Obama's policies were NOT business friendly. As a business, instead of waiting for the next regulation to drop and almost put you our of business you now have an administration that is willing to work with the US business community and not become a hindrance to the American economy.

Leadership matters.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112456 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

All of these sound like reasonable and relatively neutral statements


Anything written about the past year's economy that omits the impact of de-reg and biz-con is not neutral at all. It's left wing damage control.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24717 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

ll of these sound like reasonable and relatively neutral statements. To attribute changes in a massively complex system such as the US economy to one person would be foolish.


If that one person introduces policies that trigger economic growth?
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:35 pm to
NPR is ANTI- American, Stop the FUNDING
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118758 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

Anything written about the past year's economy that omits the impact of de-reg and biz-con is not neutral at all. It's left wing damage control.




Right.

No one knows what biz-con is.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19222 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

"it can't be completely ruled out that some of the improvements in the economy may be attributed to Trump"
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:52 pm to
We went from a "you didn't build that" socialist to an unabashed pro business president. Trump has had a ton of intangible influence upon the economy.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118758 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Trump has had a ton of intangible influence upon the economy.




And tangible.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29032 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

NPR is ANTI- American, Stop the FUNDING



Kige.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:05 pm to
quote:


What a fricking stupid comment
What is stupid about it? You all cry loud that people aren't recognizing the good or being nice to Trump. It is sad and comical that you care about how much respect, or admiration that another man receives. Because at the end of the damn day all he is is another man.
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