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re: Now That the Culture Seems to Be Shifting, Will We See Music Groups Like The Eagles.....
Posted on 8/9/25 at 1:01 pm to KCT
Posted on 8/9/25 at 1:01 pm to KCT
It's all based on the genre of music you like, and whether or not you're exposed to music other than what's "in" at the time. There are still young people who enjoy older music once they're able to hear it. I have leaned more toward soft rock that was produced in the late 60's, 70's, and 80's, but have a wide range of likes from classical to modern. In the past few years I've been a big fan of Michael Buble as I love a good melody and the great tone of his voice. To each his own, but I will say it's never been easier with today's technology to listen to WHATEVER you want to WHENEVER you want to in the best quality possible.
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Posted on 8/9/25 at 1:07 pm to Upperdecker
Nickelback is Led Zeppelin to what we have now. AI writes most new country songs. In many ways technology destroyed art.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 1:30 pm to KCT
There's lots of good acts out there, you'll just never hear them on the radio. probably because they didn't make a deal with the devil and do "the deed"
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:24 pm to KCT
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there's money to be made in good music.
Not since Napster landed in 2000.
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There has to be one or more reasons for this
And that is the single biggest mysterious reason you are looking for. It's not the only one, but it's by far the biggest.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
This is an amazing thread
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:29 pm to UtahCajun
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The Blue Stones
The Cold Stares
Another Black Day
Cry of Love
Taddy Porter
Podunk
Etc
Just but a few pulled off my playlist.
Radio is what is dead. Not music.
I will listen to those bands, but will need to hear it to believe it.
I have had probably 3 dozen conversations just like this that start with, "There's more new great music now that ever...you just have to know how to find it!"
"Oh yeah? Who are these great bands?"
(Lists several)
I listen to them and realize that every one of them is just recycling the same ideas as Peter Gabriel or Brian Eno or David Bowie or The Beatles or the Eurythmics back in the 60s or 70s or 80s (and doing it better), but the person making the list is just too young to know it.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:30 pm to seedmonster77
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In many ways technology destroyed art.
This is the correct answer.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:31 pm to KCT
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But except for Justin Bieber, and he was just for the very young girs, there hasn't been anything like the Eagles or Van Halen in several years. Music today is basically DOA. Honestly, I think part of it is not wanting to give a white male that kind of platform anymore.
What are you talking about gramps. There’s white men (and women) all over music. Ed Sheeran, Billie Eilish and Taylor Swift dominate everyone.
They just don’t do the Super Bowl, but even those days are numbered. Black people just use those opportunities to rub it in everyone’s faces that “they not like us” but they’re putting themselves on an island, more people are sick of it today than they were yesterday.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:34 pm to KCT
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Dude, GFY. You don't have to be old to know that music has basically died. Hell, you do realize that it's possible to see things that were around before your time?.I know about Jesus, but I wasn't around when he was here.
I know people in their 20's who feel the same way that I do about music.
The proof is in the pudding.
When I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, almost nobody listened to music even a decade removed from the current day.
That's because music was still changing to reflect the changing culture.
Now people listen to music that is 40, 50, 60 years old as much or more than they do current music. Even young people.
And I challenge anyone to—with a straight face—tell me anyone releasing music today is going to still have an audience 60 years from now.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:43 pm to wackatimesthree
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Now people listen to music that is 40, 50, 60 years old as much or more than they do current music. Even young people.
A lot more good music being made (due to having much more time for it to be made) + having easy access to that music will do that.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:51 pm to wackatimesthree
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Now people listen to music that is 40, 50, 60 years old as much or more than they do current music. Even young people.
They were playing The Cure last time I went grocery shopping at Walmart. That song was about 40 years old.
I agree with you. Back in the 80s we didn’t listen to music from the 40s. Kids today do listen to 40-50 year old music.
This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 8/9/25 at 4:02 pm to UptownJoeBrown
Until the 70s or so, it wasn't really possible to have an extensive, personal music collection for teens and younger. As that has become easier over time, people listen to a wider range of music (in terms of style and age). Also, you're going to have a much larger concentration of people focusing on that era moving onward.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 4:25 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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I agree with you. Back in the 80s we didn’t listen to music from the 40s. Kids today do listen to 40-50 year old music.
And that's because it's much better than just about anything around today.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 4:28 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:You dont think the Beatles and Led Zeppelin were recycling from songs that came before?:
every one of them is just recycling the same ideas as Peter Gabriel or Brian Eno or David Bowie or The Beatles
This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 8/9/25 at 4:29 pm to KCT
I heard The Edge from U2 make the point that people with a laptop have access to studio capabilities that only a few bands did decades ago. That said, you are just rarely going to have the insane technical production anymore that bands like The Eagles and Steely Dan went through. I don't personally love John Mayer's music, but he feels like one of the last young-ish real musicians in that mindset. But, I am getting old and probably not aware of a lot of what's out there.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Until the 70s or so, it wasn't really possible to have an extensive, personal music collection for teens and younger. As that has become easier over time, people listen to a wider range of music (in terms of style and age). Also, you're going to have a much larger concentration of people focusing on that era moving onward.
bullshite.
we didn't listen to the Eagles in the late 80s because it was considered lame and out of touch, not because we couldn't go to the store and buy an Eagles tape just like we could something that was current.
And listening to something older than that was considered listening to our parent's music.
This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:09 pm to Jake88
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You dont think the Beatles and Led Zeppelin were recycling from songs that came before?
No.
I think they were drawing from it, using it as a basis and then adding their own creativity and original ideas to it.
That's not what i'm talking about. I'm talking about doing the exact same thing with it, thinking it's an original idea.
This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:09 pm to KCT
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And that's because it's much better than just about anything around today.
That's my conclusion as well.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:11 pm to wackatimesthree
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No.
I think they were drawing from it, using it as a basis and then adding their own creativity to it.
That's what you described in your examples of new music.
You're just suffering from the Endowment Effect with "your" music.
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That's not what i'm talking about. I'm talking about doing the same thing with it.
So...covers?
Hate to break it to you about Led Zeppelin...
This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:23 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I heard The Edge from U2 make the point that people with a laptop have access to studio capabilities that only a few bands did decades ago. That said, you are just rarely going to have the insane technical production anymore that bands like The Eagles and Steely Dan went through. I don't personally love John Mayer's music, but he feels like one of the last young-ish real musicians in that mindset. But, I am getting old and probably not aware of a lot of what's out there.
People typically cling to the music of their adolescence and early adulthood.
This doesn't just apply to music, either.
I listen to all sorts of genres and there is constantly new stuff being made. I still have a soft spot for things in that timeframe I spoke of earlier, obviously, but I see all sorts of genres producing good stuff. Hell, I follow a Black Metal channel on YT that's constantly delivering new music, and I don't even like Black Metal that much. I have several retro-synth subs that are always releasing new mixes.
I mean just the content of guys posting videos of creating new music on drum machines is insane
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