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re: Now Social Security could be depleted this decade

Posted on 4/23/20 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57372 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 10:54 am to
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Its the dirty little secret no one on either side of the aisle wants to talk about.
It's why both parties are pro-immigration. Need more payers to fund current "returns". A declining population, or one that earns income above the FICA cutoff... means SS goes t*ts up sooner.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57372 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 10:56 am to
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I never expected to see one cent of SS, so I don't really care when it fails.

If you don't care about 15% of your lifetime earnings being taken from you with no return I have no idea how to help you.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
9021 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 10:58 am to
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That's YOUR money in there


My money in there was spent by my grandparents just like I'll spend my grandchildren's money if there's any left.
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
4112 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:01 am to
Joe B, chuck, and nancy P will solve the problem by raising the $128k (or whatever it is) contribution cap.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26585 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:05 am to
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If you don't care about 15% of your lifetime earnings being taken from you with no return I have no idea how to help you.


I did not say that I don't care that its being taken from me without any chance of my ever getting it back. I do.

But what am I supposed to do about it, exactly? I will never, ever see a dime of it and the same is true for most younger people. It will either fail completely or payouts will end up being restricted to the point that anyone who held a decent job and invested wisely will get nothing.

"caring" has nothing to do with it.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 11:06 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18711 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:05 am to
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Good. Let it fail.



Always thought it would, though now working for 35 years and paying in God knows how much money to see that ponsi scam collapse is going to piss me off. It is literally hundreds of thousands of dollars paid in and POOF! it's gone...



Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57372 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:15 am to
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I never expected to see one cent of SS, so I don't really care when it fails.


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I did not say that I don't care that its being taken from me without any chance of my ever getting it back.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13353 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:26 am to
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I’m ok with that. Just stop deducting from my paycheck. Let me invest my own fricking money.


x2, but I'll have back the tens of thousands the government has already stolen from my employers and I, to prop up their fricking Ponzi scheme for the last 35 years. Thank you very much.
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:31 am to
"Some a-hole forgot to carry the frickin' 2!!"
-Lewis Black
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11181 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:34 am to
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That's YOUR money in there. Why would you want anything with your money in it to fail? Assuming you work.



Do you know what a sunk cost is?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11181 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:36 am to
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It's why both parties are pro-immigration. Need more payers to fund current "returns". A declining population, or one that earns income above the FICA cutoff... means SS goes t*ts up sooner.



Impossible. The experts in the '30s surely accounted for demographic changes in their models
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13353 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:36 am to
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I'm not the one worried my welfare check will run out.


frick you a-hole. The government takes money from you, gives it back decades later, when the dollar they took will only buy 80 cents worth of shite if you're lucky, without paying one cent in interest, and then we have to listen to sniveling shits like you call it welfare.

Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11693 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:50 am to
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The government takes money from you, gives it back decades later,


This is where you tards don't get it. It's not your money they are giving back. It's the money from the generations currently working that is funding your welfare checks.

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and then we have to listen to sniveling shits like you call it welfare.


I'm not just calling it welfare. I'm calling you a welfare queen.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 11:51 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15178 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:56 am to
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If you don't care about 15% of your lifetime earnings being taken from you with no return I have no idea how to help you.

That's why it will never be means tested. It makes no sense to give away another 15% of your income to someone else without personal benefit. In that case it becomes another form of welfare to the middle and below middle class. Take a 35% tax bracket person and then add another 15% to the tax burden? No way!
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13353 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:57 am to
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This is where you tards don't get it. It's not your money they are giving back. It's the money from the generations currently working that is funding your welfare checks.


Yeah, that's what makes it a Ponzi scheme, frickstick. I'm 50, and have held a job since the day I turned 16, frickstick. I'll be 65 in.... wait for it... 2035.

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I'm not just calling it welfare. I'm calling you a welfare queen.


You wouldn't say it in person, which confirms you are the bitch you so desperately want everyone to know you are.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:58 am to
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This is where you tards don't get it. It's not your money they are giving back. It's the money from the generations currently working that is funding your welfare checks.



This is what you tards don't get. We funded it for the "greatest generation".

It has always been a Ponzi scheme. You are just a bigger bagholder.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11693 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 12:00 pm to
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This is what you tards don't get. We funded it for the "greatest generation".


At least you get the added moral benefit of funding a generation that actually deserved it.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11693 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 12:03 pm to
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You wouldn't say it in person


You're right. I sure as hell am not going to drive to shithole Arkansas to explain the ills of socialism to you.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74105 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 12:03 pm to
What exactly have you done to claim "deserved"?


I mean living in Boomers basements with a liberal arts degree isnt a great achievement no matter how hard you try and spin it
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11693 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 12:05 pm to
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What exactly have you done to claim "deserved"?


I was talking about the Greatest Generation deserving it. Try to keep up.
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