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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here

Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:08 am to
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:08 am to
Well I think the relevant question at this stage is whether the fallout from the situation we're discussing persists to this day, and I'd propose that it does not, much the opposite in that there is much more vindication on Trump's behalf than otherwise.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:11 am to
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cajunangelle


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Prettyboy Floyd



Wait.

Why the hell am I arguing with people who have absolutely patience for nuance and a reasonable discussion?

Especially when CajunAngelle is one of the looniest posters on this board and is just barely a step above Karla?

Yeah about that.....
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:11 am to
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He fired a partisan hack and democrats are still running stories about how this guy was after Pompeo for walking his fricking dog. The DEMS do not give a frick about our kindness. Period
true all dat. they want Pompeo gone. Frick diplomacy and all of Sentrious' fee fees of diplomacy. and frick the keebler elf POS

If Sessions really did get caught up in the crossfire of their hurricane; there are a thousand different things he could have said afterwards.

He didn't, he even said he would go along with the 25th amendment. He never denied this... and he won't because he is as corrupt as that rat faced wussy with glasses RR.

These are the words of a person wanting back in to vote with Romney with his little wussified GOPe POS on China's bankroll not ours. He could have stayed in his tree making cookies with his grand kids-- frick no, he was needed by the GOPe.

Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:12 am to
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Last week alone is evidence of that.


Wrong, he still insults the media daily and so does his press secretary. He's still the guy that is in their fighting. I wouldn't vote for his arse is he backed down like a pussy.

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And Trump is helping himself by not playing their game and doing stupid shite like he did in the Comey Interview with Lester Holt.


frick Comey

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Just fire him, put out a statement and then move on.


The media doesn't let you move on. They are running stories to this day and blasting it all over Reddit and twitter that this hack was investigating Pompeo and the Saudi arabia arms deal. That's what your not getting. It doesn't matter what Conservatives do the media is going to spin it.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:14 am to
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reasonable discussion?


They spied on the president. They perpetrated a hoax on him. They tried to put his NSA advisor behind bars. They shite on attorney client privilege and put his attorney in jail.

frick your Nuance
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:15 am to
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Look, I know your anger, but recusal was required by law.


Literally every single person in his position has had meetings with other nations, including some of our enemies. He’s a swamp trash cuck bitch.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:15 am to
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the relevant question at this stage is whether the fallout from the situation we're discussing persists to this day


I would say yes.

Because Trump has clearly modified his procedures for how he fires people and how he handles the aftermath of it.

The Comey disaster was a PR nightmare that he has learned from and has acted accordingly.

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much the opposite in that there is much more vindication on Trump's behalf than otherwise.


I would say this is a statement in hindsight.

We know that Trump did nothing wrong at this point in May 2020. However, that question was a question that could not be resolved in May 2017.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:20 am to
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However, that question was a question that could not be resolved in May 2017.


Dan Bongino was writing about it well before May of 2017. The question could and was answered before then because we know the dossier was never verified and real journalist like John Soloman and Sara Carter were writing about it.

We also know that under oath
Clapper
Farkas
Rice

among others were saying they have seen zero evidence of collusion under oath while simultaneously going on TV saying otherwise.



Yes, People have known since May of 2017 this entire shite show as a scam. You just had to find the right journalist that were doing the real investigations and not gas lighting.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:23 am to
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he still insults the media daily


He may throw a jab at the media here or there but he's going to keep a very tight lip on why and how he fired the IG and other similar officials.

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so does his press secretary.


That's called letting his surrogates and comms shop speak for him when he needs to like he should've done with the Comey firing.

They told the President the lester holt interview was a bad idea and it was definitely a bad idea.

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The media doesn't let you move on. They are running stories to this day and blasting it all over Reddit and twitter that this hack was investigating Pompeo and the Saudi arabia arms deal. That's what your not getting. It doesn't matter what Conservatives do the media is going to spin it.




Nothing, absolutely NOTHING is going to come of the IG firing.

Because Trump is not making the same mistake he made in the lester holt interview.

In the words of our democrat Governor here in Louisiana, I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:26 am to
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Sentrius


A vote for Sessions is a vote for them. No spin changes that. I don't know who owns him - don't really care. But that man allowed the liberal media to sideline him because he had a meeting that a Russian was at. You can sit down and justify it till your blue in the face but Sessions singlehandly failed the president while also abandoning his seat and allowing the liberal media to gas light Roy Moore to allow Doug Jones to win. Thats a lot of failures by one man.

TOMMY TUBBERVILLE for senate. I don't care who owns him because as long as it's not the same people that own Sessions, we can work with it.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:30 am to
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Dan Bongino was writing about it well before May of 2017. The question could and was answered before then because we know the dossier was never verified and real journalist like John Soloman and Sara Carter were writing about it.

We also know that under oath
Clapper
Farkas
Rice

among others were saying they have seen zero evidence of collusion under oath while simultaneously going on TV saying otherwise.



Yes, People have known since May of 2017 this entire shite show as a scam. You just had to find the right journalist that were doing the real investigations and not gas lighting.


Full disclosure, I never believed the Russian hoax had any validity to it and believed the President was always going to come untouched out of it.

However, I'm only a political junkie and a Trump voter and this was a question that had to be resolved credibly for the general public in the best way possible and that included not playing the media's games.

But Trump gave the media one hell of a juicy gotcha when he blurted out Russia in the Holt interview. And on came the Mueller witch hunt.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:31 am to
The only reason Trump firing the IG's won't be the peach mint new headliner is because Obama did it. They are going with the virus tanking the economy. Joe on Morning Mika called for Pence to take over. They will stop at nothing. Frick Sessions he was going to go along with the 25th amendment.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:32 am to
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I don't know who owns him -


He's endorsed by unions for ICE and CBP agents.

You know the people that are responsible for enforcing border security and deporting illegal aliens?

LINK

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National Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Council Announces Endorsement of Jeff Sessions for Senate

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE FEBRUARY 28, 2020

Today, National Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Council President Chris Crane released the following statement after the National ICE Council officially endorsed Jeff Sessions for the U.S. Senate in the State of Alabama.
“On behalf of the men and women of the National Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Council, we’re proud to endorse Jeff Sessions for Senate in the State of Alabama.

We know Jeff Sessions and we know what he stands for. As the United States Attorney General, Jeff Sessions led the fight against sanctuary cities and illegal immigration, and was an unwavering champion of law enforcement officers across the nation.

As a U.S. Senator, Jeff Sessions was the strongest supporter in the U.S. Congress of ICE, its mission, and its employees. We have no doubt that Senator Sessions will pick up right where he left off – standing up for law enforcement and the enforcement of our laws. We know he will continue to lead the fight against sanctuary cities that threaten our communities and endanger our law enforcement personnel across the country. And we know that he will keep fighting against radical open border policies that threaten our national security.
Jeff Sessions has always stood up to The Swamp and always worked to hold Washington accountable. We need him now more than ever to stand up for what’s right and stand with President Trump to keep America safe. “

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If Tommy Tuberville is so great on immigration, why does he not have their endorsement?

ICE union rarely makes endorsements if I remember correctly.
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:35 am to
Only the same type of useless stupid fricking idiot republicans that voted For John Bell fricking Edwards would vote for Jeff Pussyfart Sessions.
I hope Alabama isn’t as full of gutless shite traitor republicans as Louisiana is. I hope Alabama doesn’t have weak rino bitch republicans that would vote for sessions like Louisiana rino bitch republicans that voted for John Bell democrat bitch motherfricker Edwards.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:40 am to
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He's endorsed by unions for ICE and CBP agents.

You know the people that are responsible for enforcing border security and deporting illegal aliens?



He's also been spurned by the president and could likely start voting against him. He's proven that he doesn't have the presidents back. He was hired to do a job and he failed to do it. I care nothign about Sessions "Reliable" past record because of what he personally allowed to happen to 60 million votes. He failed the country. It's like Utah pushign Mittens back in knowing full well he was anti-Trump and would take every opportunity to show it. Sessions has been called sleepy Jeff and relentlessly attacked by us Trump supporters and judging by his tweets hes butthurt about being sleepy Jeff. Id rather have Doug Jones. At least with him I know what im getting.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:43 am to
get over it already. Sessions needs to go, a pile of leaves can replace him. Alabama should have organized and put up someone that truly supports non establishment. people are sick of holding their noses. Sessions and Tub or who ever will be bought off so who cares?

it's Alabama could they not have put up somebody anybody else? they didn't. get over it.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:48 am to
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However, I'm only a political junkie and a Trump voter and this was a question that had to be resolved credibly for the general public in the best way possible and that included not playing the media's games.


You don't find it odd real journalism took a backseat for 3 years?

Devin Nunez released a report and they filed an ethics investigation on him and sidelined him for it.

There were many great journalist during this time that a lot of people were reading that were cutting thru all the bullshite and calling these assholes out and just because liberals who only watch CNN are just now seeing it - a lot of us have read books and kept up with everything going on and have known from the outset there was frickery afoot.

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But Trump gave the media one hell of a juicy gotcha when he blurted out Russia in the Holt interview. And on came the Mueller witch hunt.


Long before that interview the media was pushing fora special council. That may have been a convenient excuse but this thing was rolling long before that.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:50 am to
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He's also been spurned by the president and could likely start voting against him.


Oh so you’re worried that Trump’s vitriol could influence Sessions who has said not one negative word about him? Especially since he left the AG’s office?

If John McCain, Jeff Flake and Mittens of all people can vote for conservative judges and justices, tax cuts, and conservative policy items, then Jeff Sessions is a sure thing.

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Id rather have Doug Jones


Now this is delusional idiocy.
This post was edited on 5/23/20 at 12:52 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:54 am to
you probably think Nikki Haley with Romney as her VP would be great as President huh?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:55 am to
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much the opposite in that there is much more vindication on Trump's behalf than otherwise.


I would say this is a statement in hindsight.

It is, and my point is that we now know Trump was not wrong and did no wrong, and other than our commentary on how he could have been more artful in his approach to some of his remarks in that interview, there is no lingering damage from the situation as we sit here today.

In fact, it's probably easy to deduce from the circumstances that Trump had other things in his knowledge that he could have said in that interview that could have clarified things much better, but appropriately did not do so likely due to classified nature of the information.
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