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Sentrius
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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Trump was absolutly wrong to fire him then.

He should have fired him on day fricking 1


I agree.

That reminds me, sessions says he told Trump to fire Comey on day one during the transition. Trump didn’t and kept him around for a few months.

I have not seen anyone from Trump World try to dispute that claim and that speaks volumes.

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Those wheels were in motion long before that interview bub.


You’re just shifting your arguments to absolve Trump of any blame here after you argued that Trump could’ve and should’ve done it however he wanted.

The Russia HOAX was entirely preventable.

- Trump could have fired Comey day one. He didn’t.

- Trump did not have to fire General Flynn but he still did anyway.

- Trump did not have to do the train wreck holt interview and he still did anyway.


Prettyboy Floyd
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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The Russia HOAX was entirely preventable.


Or if Jeff Sessions does his job


Easy peasy


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Prettyboy Floyd
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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essions says he told Trump to fire Comey on day one during the transition. Trump didn’t and kept him around for a few months.



He probably did - doesn't absolve him of sidelining him self and putting Rod fricking Rosenstein in charge. That wasn't just a minor frick up. That was a major monumental frick up.


Sentrius
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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I understand your an agenda driven conservative.



- Winners make policy and law. Losers go home.

I'm one of the very few voters in this country that understands and respects this point. And it's why I closely vet political candidates.

Tuberville is a closet amnesty supporter and a chamber of commerce hack owned by big tech and thus he's someone conservatives have no business supporting.


bhtigerfan
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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You are trying to play nice with people that hate your fricking guts and everything you stand for. When that clicks for you- you will be better equipped as a voter and in the future. Dems don't think of you as a person with bad ideas. They dehumanize conservatives and think we are terrible people. When you play their game you always lose.
All of this. And I hate them right back.


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Sentrius
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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doesn't absolve him of sidelining him self and putting Rod fricking Rosenstein in charge. That wasn't just a minor frick up. That was a major monumental frick up.



Even after Sessions recused, Trump still had plenty of chances to stop the Russia Hoax before it was too late and he still went full steam ahead towards it even if it was unwittingly.

The buck stops with the President.



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davyjones
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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And it's why I closely vet political candidates.

I think a lot of people used to do this but gave up on it because it's seemingly so unreliable to predict a political candidate's likely future actions due to how they so easily blow in the wind these days. Skepticism and cynicism appear to rule the day. I think people just have a much different method of vetting candidates now. And sometimes it's quite unscientific, even up to and including how much of a "fighter" one seems to be, a la Donald Trump.


Sentrius
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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I think a lot of people used to do this but gave up on it because it's seemingly so unreliable to predict a political candidate's likely future actions due to how they so easily blow in the wind these days. Skepticism and cynicism appear to rule the day.


Vetting candidates is not limited to what the candidate's political history is and what kind of voting record he has if any. You also vet the candidates by researching the following.

- Who the candidate associates with and does not associate with, especially given the political ideology he aligns with.

- what are the candidate's political role models?

- Who is endorsing and donating to the candidate and who wants him to win the election?

- Who are the candidate's enemies and who wants the candidate to lose the election?

- How much energy and effort does the candidate puts into a campaign platform? If he even has a platform.
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davyjones
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
I get all that, and that's a solid recipe no doubt. But it's still not the reliable recipe that it perhaps once was. There's just seemingly so much more behind the scenes shadiness than there was even not long ago. We see it in the audaciousness of politicians' actions and attitudes these days. The cat's sorta out of the bag in terms of what they can and will likely be able to get away with.

In other words, it's sorta hard to trust your own eyes and instincts these days. Sometimes it might end up preferable to know what you will get with the rough, in your face candidate rather than the seemingly ideal candidate for your views and values given understandable skepticism and cynicism involved.

In any event, I give you this....you're doing your homework. As long as you can trust that the research and resulting predictability is reliable.
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Sentrius
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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But it's still not the reliable recipe that it perhaps once was.


It's a recipe that has worked very well for me for the most part.

A notable example out a republican primary I voted in....

It made me come to the conclusion I could not vote for republican candidates in Scott Angelle and Jay Dardenne in the 2015 LA Governor's race, even while the front runner David Vitter was being tarred and feathered by a lot of republican voters.

And you know how that recipe ended up being even more correct?

- Scott Angelle lost a house race a year later to YouTube star Clay Higgins.

- Jay Dardenne cynically sold his endorsement to JBE and took a job in his administration and has been a huge shill for JBE's tax and spend agenda despite running as a conservative candidate.

After research, it was obvious those two were about as RINO as it gets.
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davyjones
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
I'm glad it has worked for you. I'll be the first to admit that I've got an unhealthy level of skepticism/cynicism....not only in these matters but most things in general. I will certainly save the recipe and make an effort to apply it to my own thinking at our next opportunity.


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HailToTheChiz
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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I’ve never understood why trump hated that Sessions recused himself....


Then you are a moron. Sessions knew all of this shite that is coming out now. He should have never taken the position or just resigned to allow someone else in to do the job.


NC_Tigah
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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If this is true... why didn’t Trump remove him?
He should have.

Of course, Sessions should never have given him the option. Sessions should not have recused, but when he did, he should have resigned immediately.

Despite his claim that he offered to resign, it was his duty to step down at that point. He didn’t.


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fatheadgator
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
He tried to resign- the president refused to accept it


SlackMaster
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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But then Trump rightly fired Comey and then he fricked it all up with that train wreck of an interview.

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That may have been a convenient excuse


That Trump willingly gave to the media and democrats despite being advised to not sit down for that interview.


Trump did screw up here BUT should have been able to count on his team to hold strong. Remember, he was a political novice at the time. And no Dem would have even considered recusing himself if in a similar situation. Sessions' whiffing out at the first sign of difficulty is the reason for such disappointment.


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SDVTiger
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
How can you have the audacity to even question when someone calls you a dumbarse?


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Strannix
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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but recusal was required by law


Lol wut??? Sessions weakness crippled the president's first term.


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LSURulzSEC
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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I’ve never understood why trump hated that Sessions recused himself....


then you are part of the problem...


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Bayoubred
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Member since Jan 2011
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
Sessions is the biggest wussie ever from the South. You don't recuse yourself if you know the whole thing WAS A SHAM from the get go! We needed him to stand up for a duly elected president and he folded like a pup tent.

And what did I hear from him the other day?? Something about how he now questions the basis for the Russia Investigation? NOW??? You finally question it???


Flats
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re: Not a fan of Sessions but....he ain’t wrong here
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.he ain’t wrong here


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It protected the rule of law...




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