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re: No school- no teachers pay
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:58 am to the808bass
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:58 am to the808bass
quote:The teachers I know worked very hard doing the online classes. There is much more student feedback required (on an individual basis) and it takes more time to do that in a remote setting. The teachers I know want to get back to the classrooms. I think their concerns are not so much for the children but those children that live in multi-generational homes (there is a lot of that where my DIL teaches) and asymptomatic kids taking it home to the older folks. Not in the business so glad it's not up to me. One plan I have seen here is classes are limited to 20 but only 10 students come on alternate days. Days you stay home you do online. Seems like a nightmare for teachers, parents school bus drivers, on down the line. Again, glad it's not me trying to figure it out.
I think you’re right. We know a lot of teachers. I would say that well over 80% have some mild concerns with managing all the restrictions but are very ready to return. I would say less than 10% are being very vocal about their safety and trying to use their leverage to get a more personally favorable position.
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:59 am to BamaGradinTn
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Don't be naive. 300 kids aren't going to suddenly decide to punch other kids in the face during class change
Who said during class change? Students have off periods, before care, after care, extra actives after school.
Do not focus on the punching part, but instead the fact that their will always be rules broken in schools. Question is why is the mask rule going to have a bigger consequence than punching a kid or doing drugs or etc in school.
I feel like you took my statement wrong. I was agreeing with you that just because their is a rule doesn't mean it will be followed by a group of kids
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:00 am to Lebowski
Look at this thread full of people who don’t like being home with their kids 
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:01 am to Rhino5
Karen just wants a haircut!!!
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:01 am to Smedium27
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I think for once teachers should have the advantage and be paid directly by the parents so their is not an old religious lady (Attaching catholic principles) trying to please the parents over the teacher, since the parents are the one paying the school.
I'm pretty sure that no one forced those parents to send their kids to a Catholic school against their will. Even in Louisiana.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:02 am to the808bass
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I think you reversed cause and effect.
BeCAUSE of Catholic schools forcing middle class to pay high tuition due to fear of safety or lack of education
It EFFECTED The local public school system in a negative way
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:03 am to Diamondawg
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The teachers I know worked very hard doing the online classes. There is much more student feedback required (on an individual basis) and it takes more time to do that in a remote setting. The teachers I know want to get back to the classrooms. I think their concerns are not so much for the children but those children that live in multi-generational homes (there is a lot of that where my DIL teaches) and asymptomatic kids taking it home to the older folks. Not in the business so glad it's not up to me. One plan I have seen here is classes are limited to 20 but only 10 students come on alternate days. Days you stay home you do online. Seems like a nightmare for teachers, parents school bus drivers, on down the line. Again, glad it's not me trying to figure it out.
Its not a nightmare, people have been going to school for 100s of years.
Teachers want to stay home, heck I don't blame them... but for K-12, generally speaking the world doesn't need them in mass for online shite. Parents have to make arrangements, and at that point you might as well do home schooling.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:05 am to Lebowski
Refund partial property tax as well.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:07 am to BamaGradinTn
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I'm pretty sure that no one forced those parents to send their kids to a Catholic school against their will.
Physically forced , NO!
Indirectly making sure that catholic parents know that Orleans public schools are filled with crime and lack of enthusiasm from teachers, YES
I do apologize , This is more meant for the New Orleans Area.
Northshore and Belle Chasse are 2 cities I know of that have not been effected by the high number of catholic schools. Which is why the education system in these twp parishes are so good
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:07 am to Lsupimp
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You are not going to like this, but not only will sedentary and insolent teachers get paid , they will probably somehow manage a pay raise. And the union that leads them around by the pussy will be 100% in favor of keeping the schools closed through 2021.
This right here is the answer
Has anyone taken a look at what L.A. Teachers Unions demands are to restart school
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:13 am to Smedium27
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Indirectly making sure that catholic parents know that Orleans public schools are filled with crime and lack of enthusiasm from teachers, YES
Like I said, you confused cause and effect.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:15 am to Oilfieldbiology
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That’s why so many private schools are going back. They realize people do not want to pay for subpar education.
They also tend to care about the kids they teach.
Thank god for private school. The government can’t get anything right. People shouldn’t trust the government to do anything minor much less raise and educate their kids
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 9:19 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:16 am to Smedium27
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Students have off periods, before care, after care, extra actives after school.
not anymore
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:17 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
Oh yeah, I forgot everyone believes they do things better
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:17 am to Diamondawg
Here we go again. Most teachers (like myself) want to go back. The teachers I know that are worried about health problems are offering to take on virtual roles. Virtual is NOT easier than in-classroom instruction. Planning a virtual lesson takes a lot of extra preparation. People saying “one teacher” could teach everyone online: you have no clue. We are required to give daily individual feedback to ALL students. Most students have legal accommodations that must be given to them at all times. This means extra interaction, separate assignments, extra resources, etc. This preparation then feedback cycle, in addition to the live lessons took up most of the day. Then, when that work is finished, hours of giving feedback. This is easier in person because we can circulate the room, give verbal feedback, stop whole class instruction and clear up misconceptions, etc. In addition, when are you planning the next lesson and you have 30 parent emails waiting asking you questions that their child should know had they followed directions, “Why did my child get an F on this?!?” etc.
To the “my kids did their online work in an hour” crowd: We weren’t in virtual learning one week before we were told due to parent complaints to cut the work in half. A week later, cut in half again. We cannot finish the curriculum having to move at that pace. Again, not something teachers chose.
Going back will be a nightmare. The normal stress. Add in the masks, distancing, trying to make it engaging when I can’t get near the students or let them work together, teaching in person and virtually simultaneously.
I invite anyone criticizing to come substitute my class for one day.
To the “my kids did their online work in an hour” crowd: We weren’t in virtual learning one week before we were told due to parent complaints to cut the work in half. A week later, cut in half again. We cannot finish the curriculum having to move at that pace. Again, not something teachers chose.
Going back will be a nightmare. The normal stress. Add in the masks, distancing, trying to make it engaging when I can’t get near the students or let them work together, teaching in person and virtually simultaneously.
I invite anyone criticizing to come substitute my class for one day.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 9:22 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:21 am to the808bass
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Like I said, you confused cause and effect.
"A cause and effect relationship is when something happens (High number of Catholic Schools) that makes something else happen (Lower quality public schools). "
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:22 am to TigerintheNO
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not anymore
Post Corona yea. From what I hear kids will be doing EVERYTHING, ALL DAY in their classroom.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:23 am to Homesick Tiger
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Agreed. Heard on the news yesterday that the virtual teaching the last three months on the school year were as a whole ineffective. Until every household can have effective internet, like turning on your tap in the sink to get water, the way of the 'net is just lipstick on a pig.
Internet access and computer ownership are a small part of the problem. Getting children to do school work when they are in slapping distance of you is hard enough. Getting them to do it online is even harder. Aside from the point that them doing work is only a small part of instruction.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:24 am to Lebowski
Time to revamp the entire system.Outlaw all public schools.When parents have to pay hard cash for private schooling they will be damn sure that their child recieves a quality education. I taught in the public school system here in EBR for 22 years ,the waste is amazing. We have personnel who make 6 figure salaries that never see a student,and their job responsibility is bull shite.Cut all that damn waste of citizens’ tax dollars.Good private schools are a much better investment.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:29 am to Dogwalk
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Most want to return to normal
False. Los Angeles teachers union leadership pushed for online-only, and "83% of teachers agreed in a one-day snap poll."
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