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No Red Flag Law Or Background Check Would Have Prevented Uvalde

Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:33 am
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45289 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:33 am
This little psycho had no criminal record. He had no mental illness treatment.

All there is now are a few comments from a person here or there about how he once cut himself and was a loner.

So, if no red flag law or background check will prevent a Uvalde...

What kind of gun control would?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27158 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:34 am to
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What kind of gun control would?



None...

A fence around the school and a controlled access point to the property would have done more to prevent it than anything.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16417 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:35 am to
quote:

What kind of gun control would?



Hey stupid, we just need more laws.

Now shut up.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25020 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:35 am to
The matter is now closed.

There are no more common sense laws to be passed.

It’s a mental health issue.

Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1634 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:35 am to
There are a million stories out there swirling around so this may or may not be true but one of the things I heard was that the kid actually did do some things at school that should have been dealt with by police but instead the school chose to get the counselor route. If that in deed did happen, the school is partially at fault for the kid having a clean record
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16304 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:35 am to
That's why they are playing the 21 card now.

The other stuff didn't fit.

But that's their playbook on every issue. Start with "we just want this common sense blah blah blah" and before you know it, penises in dresses are sharing a bathroom with your 5 year old daughter.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:36 am to
An armed resistance at the school would have; armed guards, armed teachers or alike
Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
5765 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:36 am to
Dan Bongino suggested Man Cages. He said one of his Daughters went to a School that had them.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21813 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:42 am to
quote:

What kind of gun control would?


The law of good parenting…knowing what’s going on in his life, realizing he bought weapons, monitoring your sick kids social media, etc etc. I’ll monitor my kids for the rest of their lives, but certainly very tough through HS and possibly til their completely on their own
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
9248 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:44 am to
How about having school LEOs doing their damn job.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:47 am to
quote:

No Red Flag Law Or Background Check Would Have Prevented Uvalde. This little psycho had no criminal record. He had no mental illness treatment. All there is now are a few comments from a person here or there about how he once cut himself and was a loner. So, if no red flag law or background check will prevent a Uvalde...

What kind of gun control would?
I agree with your initial premise that Red Flag laws would not have prevented this, but you could easily postulate "gun control" legislation that might have done so. The first that jumps to mind is raising the purchase age to 21, assuming that the weapons he purchased on his 18th birthday were the weapons used at the school.

I am not advocating for that change ... just answering your question.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 9:49 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:48 am to
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How about having school LEOs doing their damn job.
Please tell us about the "school LEOs" in Uvalde, Texas. TIA
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45289 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:53 am to
Absolutely, I understand.

That’s what I’m asking; if we’re talking about gun control laws, let’s be honest and clear about what those laws would be.
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2408 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:13 am to
instead of 54 billion to Ukraine, start putting these bulletproof saferooms in classrooms. Can be used as instructional space unless needed to close up for safety. youtube link--short vid

LINK
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23193 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:16 am to
quote:

The first that jumps to mind is raising the purchase age to 21


Immediate injunction, struck down permanently within a year .

An illegal legal remedy isn't really an answer.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:22 am to
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Immediate injunction, struck down permanently within a year .
That is not the question that LT asked.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:37 am to
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if we’re talking about gun control laws, let’s be honest and clear about what those laws would be.
Too often, the understandable impulse to "to something" has led democracies to enact legislation that does not even really address the event to which it is responsive.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41686 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:40 am to
More "gun control" won't actually do anything. The goal is to remove all guns from civilian ownership, and the only way to do that is to boil the frog by enacting more and more "common sense" laws every time a crime is committed that would not have been stopped by those laws.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12221 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:42 am to
What's ludicrous is thinking that criminals would abide by any gun control law.
Posted by Slidellproud
Madisonville
Member since Mar 2014
422 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:43 am to
Exactly and he didn’t buy it on a whim so he would’ve waited however long he needed to.
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