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re: No one wants to raise families anymore

Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:56 am to
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4368 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:56 am to
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This commie victim nonsense is stupid


Pretty sure commies want to have lots of children to be slaves for the state.

The problem is our system is already too communist as it is.
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:01 am to
quote:

No one wants to raise families anymore

Just from observing some family and friends and people I grew up with, or knew in High School and College.

It seems like the majority of people in their 20's and 30's have given up on the traditional American family lifestyle in exchange for travel, pets, and material. It feels like if this trend continues we won't have much of a civilization left in a generation or two.




Not all but most and the ones that aren't wanting to reproduce are also the ones you don't want reproducing

Society and civilization will be MUCH better without the materialistic people.
The same people that are pushing for killing off "Whiteness" and not sure of their gender are the ones that aren't having children are the ones that are going to be depriving future generations of their presence and I say they can't die off fast enough.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:18 am to
Lazy mfers
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:20 am to
quote:


Pretty sure commies want to have lots of children to be slaves for the state.

Can you point to one example of a communist government which pushes having kids?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9046 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:22 am to
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Educating/Training our current able bodied Welfare State would solve many of our problems in this country. Investing in American citizens would solve many of our problems.


I agree but then who will want to hang dry wall and pick oranges? Most of the folks that receive welfare have jobs they are just low paying.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36433 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:31 am to
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Buy something you can afford even if it isn’t exactly the hip neighborhood you want to live in long term



this is kind of BS right now

Suburban starter homes with 45 min commutes are priced outrageously much less stepping up.

Small single stories in the suburbs are going for over 300k. By the old 3x yearly income rule that means the household income should be minimum 6 figures to get a single story tract starter home in the suburbs. We aren’t talking about “hip” areas.





You can say all you want “don’t buy into this market” but some people get transferred or they have a new opportunity to move up in a different company
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:34 am to
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people get transferred or they have a new opportunity to move up in a different company

Which is where renting comes in. You don't buy in an up market unless you absolutely have to do so.

Eta
And as far as that goes, if people can't afford to live somewhere, pay will eventually follow.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 10:35 am
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:34 am to
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Small single stories in the suburbs are going for over 300k. By the old 3x yearly income rule that means the household income should be minimum 6 figures to get a single story tract starter home in the suburbs. We aren’t talking about “hip” areas.

You noticed that graph has valleys, not just peaks - right?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15006 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:35 am to
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It seems like the majority of people in their 20's and 30's have given up on the traditional American family lifestyle


He always saves a remnant.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:37 am to
Guess I haven’t noticed this as much. My wife and I have three kids, almost everyone I know that I keep in touch with from HS and college is married and is either pregnant or have kids, and pretty much everyone we meet locally our age or older has kids.

Now people are definitely waiting longer to get married and have kids. We had our first when I was 27 and most of the above people waited until 30+.
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
5306 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:38 am to
I have 2 white kids!

And my 8 year old is already red pulled!

It's the 4 year old girl who I'll really need to raise well.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36433 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:38 am to
quote:

You noticed that graph has valleys, not just peaks - right?


It’s very easy to criticize and tell others to throw money away renting for half a decade that you will for sure never see again. Better hope that if you decide to wait you are definitely at or near the peak

ETA the guy I was responding to also was saying buy. He automatically assumed that people only look in hip areas in the metro and that there’s east deals to be had elsewhere.

There’s not
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 10:40 am
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:40 am to
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It’s very easy to criticize and tell others to throw money away renting for half a decade that you will for sure never see again.

Do you imagine you are the first person to rent for years?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:42 am to
quote:

It’s very easy to criticize and tell others to throw money away renting for half a decade that you will for sure never see again. Better hope that if you decide to wait you are definitely at or near the peak

You’re whining that life isn’t always easy and convenient. Yeah, it’s easy to be critical of that.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19544 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:50 am to
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Marriage and a traditional family unit are for the upper-middle class and above.

Millennials and Gen Z are facing ever-increasing roadblocks to moving into the upper-middle class, so, obviously, marriage and traditional families aren't really options.
Too many ITT are focusing on the second sentence of your post, when the real problem is the first.

The question is, who enacted the policies that destroyed marriage and traditional family formation for all but the well-to-do?

And why aren't Millennials and Gen Z holding the people (and political parties) who created the situation accountable for their actions?
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:58 am to
21 to 30 year olds are for the most part too distracted. It’s all about them. 17 social media apps. Casual sex. And running a family is work. They’re not into it.
Posted by GWM
Member since Aug 2021
1565 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:59 am to
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People have abandoned God. It's not really news though.


Amen, brother ! That's the largest problem we have. If that problem were fixed, that would solve 95% of the rest of them automatically. For the 5 people who gave the OP thumbs down votes, you all are the problem.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36433 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 11:07 am to
I bet you also whine about the world economic forum saying “you will own nothing and be happy” and attribute bad intentions to black rock buying up large areas of housing in the suburbs.

I’m not saying that those things aren’t to be worried about-in fact I’m agreeing with it.

Yet you seem to forget all that when considering that millennials are trying to enter the housing market at the same age as previous generations but having more economic obstacles
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 11:11 am to
Two incomes can’t come up with $100k a year in total income to afford these homes?

They can. They just don’t want to live in the burbs or commit to getting married
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36433 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 11:16 am to
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Two incomes can’t come up with $100k a year in total income to afford these homes?


I never said they couldn’t. However the median household income is ~67k

I also don’t think it was standard in the past to have to have both parents working in order to afford a starter home in the suburbs.

Maybe I’m wrong but I think a ford union plant job in the 70s and 80s could afford a 3 bedroom house in Dearborn without the wife having to work.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 11:18 am
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