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re: No end to the dem lies

Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:06 am to
Posted by ZDubs
Member since Jul 2024
44 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:06 am to
yep.

“ The measure is separate and not part of a package of three supplemental funding bills containing aid for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan as well as another so-called sidecar bill dealing with TikTok. ”

“ But congressional Republicans walked away from it early this year at the urging of GOP presumptive presidential nominee Donald Trump, who was not supportive of the bill because he is centering his reelection campaign on immigration.
The chair of the House Judiciary Committee, Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, argued that the bill “isn’t quite H.R. 2.”
The bill is nearly identical to H.R. 2, but removes the mandate for employers to verify a worker’s immigration status and employment eligibility, and includes about $9 billion in grant programs for border states.”

Texas Republican Chip Roy agreed that the bill would not become law, and expressed his frustration that the GOP would not try to leverage foreign aid money for it.
“Republicans continue to campaign on securing the border and then refuse to use any leverage to actually secure the border,” Roy said. “We should get it signed into law but the only way to force Democrats to do it is to use leverage.”

senate republicans wanted to tie them together to get it passed.
Posted by ZDubs
Member since Jul 2024
44 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:10 am to
how so? it was basically the same bill repubs already passed while trump was in office…

“The bill is nearly identical to H.R. 2, but removes the mandate for employers to verify a worker’s immigration status and employment eligibility, and includes about $9 billion in grant programs for border states.

Texas Republican Chip Roy agreed that the bill would not become law, and expressed his frustration that the GOP would not try to leverage foreign aid money for it.
“Republicans continue to campaign on securing the border and then refuse to use any leverage to actually secure the border,” Roy said. “We should get it signed into law but the only way to force Democrats to do it is to use leverage.”
Posted by ZDubs
Member since Jul 2024
44 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:13 am to
sure. lets. why was there inflation?

we were coming our of a global pandemic that f’d everything. add trump and biden’s stimulus, energy went nuts (why biden opened up pumping more gas now than anyone in the history of the world), then add corporations raising prices way over inflation to screw us all. circumstance matters of the why. im just glad we’re back to where we are now. whatever the reason.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
4139 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:29 am to
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no democrat, but my man republicans refused to pass the border bill so trump could campaign on it.

That’s one of the biggest lies. That bill was garbage, it was so bad even 7 democrats voted against it. Do some research instead of repeating Dem talking points.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:31 am to
Forbes - Inflation: Inflation has been far worse during the Biden administration, up 20.1% over the first 45 months of Biden’s term compared to 7.1% during Trump’s first 45 months
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
4139 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:31 am to
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im a facts man. inflation was 8% in 2021. now it’s 2.6


Ok now you’re just trolling
Posted by ZDubs
Member since Jul 2024
44 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:45 am to
how is stating two easily confirmable numbers trolling?
Posted by ZDubs
Member since Jul 2024
44 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:46 am to
how so? it was basically the same bill repubs already passed while trump was in office…

“The bill is nearly identical to H.R. 2, but removes the mandate for employers to verify a worker’s immigration status and employment eligibility, and includes about $9 billion in grant programs for border states.

Texas Republican Chip Roy agreed that the bill would not become law, and expressed his frustration that the GOP would not try to leverage foreign aid money for it.
“Republicans continue to campaign on securing the border and then refuse to use any leverage to actually secure the border,” Roy said. “We should get it signed into law but the only way to force Democrats to do it is to use leverage.”
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38906 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:49 am to
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ok LINK /
I don’t give a flying frick. Calling a bill bipartisan doesn’t mean it’s good
Posted by ZDubs
Member since Jul 2024
44 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:49 am to
my man if you want have a conversation don't link to propaganda. and yes both parties suck. anyway, here’s reality from the horse’s mouth:

how so? it was basically the same bill repubs already passed while trump was in office…

“The bill is nearly identical to H.R. 2, but removes the mandate for employers to verify a worker’s immigration status and employment eligibility, and includes about $9 billion in grant programs for border states.

Texas Republican Chip Roy agreed that the bill would not become law, and expressed his frustration that the GOP would not try to leverage foreign aid money for it.
“Republicans continue to campaign on securing the border and then refuse to use any leverage to actually secure the border,” Roy said. “We should get it signed into law but the only way to force Democrats to do it is to use leverage.”

Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
4139 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:50 am to
When Biden took office in 2021 inflation was not 8% and you know it.
Posted by ZDubs
Member since Jul 2024
44 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:51 am to
never said that. was talking about its peak and where we are now.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7927 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:51 am to
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im no democrat, but my man republicans refused to pass the border bill so trump could campaign on it.

Cause the Democrat anti-inflation bill worked so well. This is one of the problems with 1000 page bills, the masses just go by the name of the bill because no one is going to read it. So, Democrats name bills that they know the people support while the bill does totally unrelated stuff.
Posted by ZDubs
Member since Jul 2024
44 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:55 am to
we were at 8% now we are at 2.6%. something worked. like pumping more gas than any country in the history of the world
Posted by ZDubs
Member since Jul 2024
44 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:57 am to
why was it bad specifically. it was more or less the same bill.

how so? it was basically the same bill repubs already passed while trump was in office…

“The bill is nearly identical to H.R. 2, but removes the mandate for employers to verify a worker’s immigration status and employment eligibility, and includes about $9 billion in grant programs for border states.

Texas Republican Chip Roy agreed that the bill would not become law, and expressed his frustration that the GOP would not try to leverage foreign aid money for it.
“Republicans continue to campaign on securing the border and then refuse to use any leverage to actually secure the border,” Roy said. “We should get it signed into law but the only way to force Democrats to do it is to use leverage.”
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48045 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 4:13 am to
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im no democrat

You are either lying - or the dumbest human alive - both of which identify you as a Democrat.

SO - no need to debunk the
quote:

refused to pass the border bill so trump could campaign on it.
bullshite - it would be like trying to talk a turtle down off the fence post.

but - just as a going away present that you can show off in your bubble.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7927 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 4:20 am to
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we were at 8% now we are at 2.6%. something worked. like pumping more gas than any country in the history of the world

Inflation is driven by injecting money into the economy. One way the federal government does this is through deficit spending, spending money it doesn’t have by borrowing or creating new funds. The math is clear: spending trillions of dollars you don’t have ultimately contributes to inflation, math is math.

A decline in the reported inflation rate doesn’t mean prices are decreasing; it simply means that prices are rising at a slower rate. The inflation percentage measures the rate of growth, not the actual price level. For instance, if an item cost $1.00 ten years ago and inflation was 4%, it would increase to $1.04 the following year. If that same item now costs $10.00 and inflation is 2%, its price still rises by $0.20 in a year. The percentage is lower, but the dollar increase is larger because the base price is higher.

This distinction is important when looking at the impact on everyday people. Inflation isn’t as important when wages grow proportionally with price increases. However, when wages fail to keep pace with inflation like what’s happening, people feel it.

For the average person, the real pain of inflation isn’t in percentages but in purchasing power. People experience inflation not as a rate of growth but as the erosion of what their income can buy, and right now people can buy a lot less than they could 4 years ago.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9571 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 5:49 am to

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ZDubs


Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17166 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 5:58 am to
You are listening to a headline. That bill was strictly about enhancing the abilities to process them in faster and hiring more people to do it. Well that and even more money to Ukraine which has nothing to do with the border. Read and learn
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15066 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:43 am to
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a facts man. inflation was 8% in 2021. now it’s 2.6%.


You're not a " facts man" you're a liar.
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