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re: NICE! Wisconsin & PENN. early vote totals looking REALLY GOOD FOR MAGA!

Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:59 am to
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2264 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:59 am to
Yes. I don't think we get too excited yet.

Waukesha needs to be at that level of red. Racine - that would be encouraging if accurate.

The Biden signs I have seen recently in the rural give me pause. I know Milwaukee and Madison are blue....but the rest of the state needs to dominate red. Uncertain right now.

Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:01 pm to
Huge Absentee Vote in Key States Favors Democrats So Far

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In Wisconsin, about 146,000 people voted by mail in the 2016 general election. This fall, about 647,000 people have already voted absentee, many in Democratic strongholds.

In Madison, Wis., thousands of people have gone to parks to deliver their ballots during Saturday voting festivals. In Milwaukee, Facebook feeds are inundated with selfies of Democrats inserting ballots into drop boxes. And along the shores of Lake Superior, voters in Wisconsin’s liberal northwest corner still trust the Postal Service to deliver ballots.

Of all the mini-battlegrounds within Wisconsin — perhaps the most pivotal state in November for both President Trump and Joseph R. Biden Jr. — the mother lode of absentee ballots is coming in Dane County, a Democratic stronghold that includes Madison. As of Friday, the number of submitted ballots there amounted to more than 36 percent of the county’s total 2016 election vote, a sign of significant enthusiasm; that figure is 10 percentage points higher than in any other county in the state.


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I thing it's fair to say more Republicans, probably significantly more, plan to vote November 3.

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City officials in Madison, Wis., dispatched 1,000 poll workers to help voters and collect ballots in city parks the last two Saturdays. Credit...Lauren Justice for The New York Times
Posted by TankBoys32
Member since Mar 2019
3991 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:02 pm to
Interesting, thanks for the insight!
Posted by uppermidwestbama
Member since Nov 2014
2097 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:04 pm to
Take a step back. It's all about the turn out in rural WI. They have to counter the blue in Madison for Trump to win WI.
Posted by Charlottetigersfan
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2020
17 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:04 pm to
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He also needs AZ and NC in your scenario. Arizona will be the toughest hold for Trump outside of the upper Rust Belt states


RCP has Biden falling out in AZ, GA, Tx, OH

All states we know trump has to have but nice to see it's coming down to the Midwest states and trump just needs 1.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22794 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:05 pm to
If those numbers are even close to true then Trump will win Wisconsin by even more than he did in 2016. With that said I have my doubts since these are just projections as Wisconsin doesn't release partisan voter numbers. I'll be cautiously optimistic though.
Posted by Charlottetigersfan
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2020
17 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Yes. I don't think we get too excited yet.

Waukesha needs to be at that level of red. Racine - that would be encouraging if accurate.

The Biden signs I have seen recently in the rural give me pause. I know Milwaukee and Madison are blue....but the rest of the state needs to dominate red. Uncertain right now.


Trump has to outperform his numbers in the WOW counties to seal a victory.
Posted by Charlottetigersfan
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2020
17 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

If those numbers are even close to true then Trump will win Wisconsin by even more than he did in 2016. With that said I have my doubts since these are just projections as Wisconsin doesn't release partisan voter numbers. I'll be cautiously optimistic though.



According to Target Smart a democratic voter file vendor trump looks good in Wisconsin and Michigan. Pennsylvania is rough because the Dems requested a shite ton more VBM ballots than anyone could've predicted. PA will come down to in person voting and if trumps ground game can seal the deal.

The most bellweather thing we can all look for is how quickly Florida gets called Nov 3. Vote by mail is already a thing there and it's one of if not the fastest state in counting mail votes. If Florida gets called early then we can expect good news for the night.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13946 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:10 pm to
That's insane that Madison city election officials can go outside the voting booths and solicit votes in person. WTF.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22794 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

According to Target Smart a democratic voter file vendor trump looks good in Wisconsin and Michigan. Pennsylvania is rough because the Dems requested a shite ton more VBM ballots than anyone could've predicted. PA will come down to in person voting and if trumps ground game can seal the deal.

The most bellweather thing we can all look for is how quickly Florida gets called Nov 3. Vote by mail is already a thing there and it's one of if not the fastest state in counting mail votes. If Florida gets called early then we can expect good news for the night.


I agree with all of that and while nationally, at least according to states that tell you the partisan makeup of absentee/mail-in voters while Democrats have requested a significantly higher number of ballots, 1.4 million (~33%) more the return rate is only 3% more for Democrats. That Democrats have requested more isn't a surprise as poll after poll has shown that a majority of Democrats plan to vote by mail while Republicans will vote in-person. If the return rate difference stays around 3% that bodes well for Trump, and Republican Senate/Representative candidates as the election day vote will be overwhelmingly pro-Republican with a higher number of people voting in person than by mail.

ETA: left out the word "more" after the first 3% return rate for Democrats. They have a 3% higher return of ballots requested/returned than Republicans.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15727 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:44 pm to
Projected vote based on what? He just literally tweeted numbers with no explanation
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19127 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:54 pm to
Whenever a Republican is up in early voting totals, it is significant, as the Dems love the souls to the polls events. However, due to the huge number of mail in ballots, this may or may not mean a thing this year.
Posted by Charlottetigersfan
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2020
17 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:56 pm to
quote:


Projected vote based on what? He just literally tweeted numbers with no explanation



Target Smart. Is a democratic voter file vendor. NBC is using their data and you can track all of it.

I don't have the link but you can google.
Posted by Charlottetigersfan
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2020
17 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

I agree with all of that and while nationally, at least according to states that tell you the partisan makeup of absentee/mail-in voters while Democrats have requested a significantly higher number of ballots, 1.4 million (~33%) more the return rate is only 3% for Democrats. That Democrats have requested more isn't a surprise as poll after poll has shown that a majority of Democrats plan to vote by mail while Republicans will vote in-person. If the return rate difference stays around 3% that bodes well for Trump, and Republican Senate/Representative candidates as the election day vote will be overwhelmingly pro-Republican with a higher number of people voting in person than by mail.



Exactly and that's what everyone is monitoring or should be monitoring.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:59 pm to
Slaughter of the lamb.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15727 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Target Smart. Is a democratic voter file vendor. NBC is using their data and you can track all of it.

I don't have the link but you can google.



Target Smart can only give you the data on what party a person is registered with and if they requested an early ballot. Democrats in Wisconsin are FAR outpacing Republicans.

LINK
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154605 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:09 pm to
That is because you people have an irrational fear of a virus.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
100993 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

I’m in Milwaukee and the Dems are on a full court press. Biden shite everywhere.


I lived there from 2011 to 2018. Where are you seeing the Biden stuff? If it's Shorewood / Whitefish Bay / Brady (East Side) / Wauwatosa that's normal.

If you're seeing it in Mequon, Waukesha and rural that's not great news.

I didn't think Trump could win WI last cycle until election day. The lines were so small I couldn't believe it compared to 2012 when it was Obama
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15727 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

That is because you people have an irrational fear of a virus.



Im not talking about motivation for voting via mail, Im talking about the rate of return. Democrats are NOT returning 3% of ballots. That is ludicrous.
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