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re: NFL Star Refuses To Share Vaccine Status — “I Think That’s HIPAA”

Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:52 am to
Posted by TankBoys32
Member since Mar 2019
2802 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:52 am to
Dak is one of the few likeable professional athletes. Too bad he plays for the cowboys, but we won't hold that against him.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94520 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:55 am to
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The hell. When you freaking pressure people for their information it does.




No it doesn't. People don't understand HIPPA. It only applies to Healthcare providers releasing patient health information.
Posted by Tigrdynasty
19th hole
Member since Jun 2018
2736 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:55 am to
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An employer has to keep health info as confidential as possible but can disclose on a need to know basis for purposes of enforcing policies.


This is correct. I just went through a case at work and had to read up on this.

An example would be if someone's condition/injury history could potentially cause a dangerous situation or accident for himself or others. People working with or around him should be aware of that.

Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5241 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:58 am to
Couldn’t agree more my friend.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4221 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:00 am to
It's no ones business if he has or hasn't received the vaccine...no one
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98809 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:02 am to
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The government has ruled that a vaccination isn’t covered by HIPAA


Has a judge?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:03 am to
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Well a vikings coach was forced to quit because of it. Methinks that violates HIPAA
You thinks terribly wrong
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31499 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:03 am to
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HIPAA has nothing to do with someone asking you your health information and you voluntarily disclosing it.


Yes. But if you create an environment where it is either expressly or tacitly required to disclose, then that's the HIPAA version of a Title VII (etc) hostile/abusive work environment. I'll allow.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:04 am to
An employer enforcing a policy is not a “hostile work environment”.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:05 am to
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I do wonder what will happen to him if anything, if he doesn't take it? OR if he doesn't ever disclose his shot status??


I would say he would be let go, like the OL coach for a team did....but he is the starting QB for the cowboys, and iirc top 5 highest paid player in the league, if not highest. Plus he's black, so may test the NFL's want to push this.

That OL coach is cheering this on I'm sure. Nice lawsuit potential
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 11:06 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:06 am to
I think it’s very interesting. The coach that got fired actually has a lawsuit if they enforce the policy unequally.

Dicey situation for the NFL.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29769 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:08 am to
From hhs.gov regarding HIPAA:

“Most of us believe that our medical and other health information is private and should be protected, and we want to know who has this information. The Privacy Rule, a Federal law, gives you rights over your health information and sets rules and limits on who can look at and receive your health information.”

Some things may not technically violate hipaa while violating the spirit of the legislation which was to create an atmosphere where your health information was treated as sacrosanct and your privacy was respected.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:09 am to
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I think it’s very interesting. The coach that got fired actually has a lawsuit if they enforce the policy unequally.

Dicey situation for the NFL.


Not really. The policy doesn’t allow coaches to be in the field or meeting rooms. So the policy inherently makes an unvaccinated coach useless

Players don’t face the same stipulations, so it’s more manageable to keep an unvaccinated player
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 11:11 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:10 am to
Are unvaccinated players allowed in meetings?

If not, does a starting QB never need to attend meetings?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:11 am to
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Are unvaccinated players allowed in meetings?

Yes
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:11 am to
Different then
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28812 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:11 am to
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NFL Star Refuses To Share Vaccine Status — “I Think That’s HIPAA” by baybeefeetz
Hipaa applies to covered entities only.

An employer has to keep health info as confidential as possible but can disclose on a need to know basis for purposes of enforcing policies.

No they can't.
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
2315 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:11 am to
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I do wonder what will happen to him if anything, if he doesn't take it?


He will be on a ventilator within 48 hours. Death is imminent. That's what my TV said.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:16 am to
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It's no ones business if he has or hasn't received the vaccine...no one


This is a problem in our society with respect for general right to privacy. Ie...no one needs to know how much someone makes or is worth or anything else, etc.

Baffles me how people don't understand it. The look people give you when they ask you personal questions and you say it's private. Like they never learned privacy etiquette and how rude it is to ask people certain questions.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 11:18 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:18 am to
It’s ok for policies to have seperate rules for different classification of employees

As someone in the medical field you should understand that. Our doctors policies are different from those that work in corporate
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