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re: NFL and using cfb as a farm system
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:20 pm to NIH
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:20 pm to NIH
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What’s the average ACT of an SEC football player, 18? These guys have no business in college classrooms nor will most do anything worthwhile with their education
Here's the problem with paying them. Yes most SEC, Big 10, etc large conference players are there to get drafted. What about the guys going to ULL, ULM, Troy, Stephen F Austin, etc? Most of them won't even be invited to training camp and they know it. They are more than likely there for a free degree that they can use to get a real job with. You would have to pay them the same as the star players in major conferences even though they are worth less and bring in less money. What if the school can't afford to pay them? They would have to cut other sports, likely baseball, basketball, or soccer. That's less scholarships and less people having an opportunity to go to college.
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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This is a secondary concern
To whom?
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:25 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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To whom?
Fair minded individuals who a) practice what they preach about supporting the free market and b) can see outside their own narrow interests
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Restraining trade so that you can continue to have your entertainment in the same manner you’ve always had it is just not a good enough reason.
My point is not really about this, either. It is speaking to the future "marketability" of college football players who don't make the NFL.
LSU football players, who keep their heads on their shoulders, are in a much better position for their future than similar individuals who have kicked around A baseball for 3-4 years out of high school.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Fair minded individuals who a) practice what they preach about supporting the free market and b) can see outside their own narrow interests
Dude?
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:34 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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LSU football players, who keep their heads on their shoulders, are in a much better position for their future than similar individuals who have kicked around A baseball for 3-4 years out of high school.
Okay. Sounds like a good recruiting pitch.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:36 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Dude?
What? In a capitalist society there should be a high bar to restrain trade, keeping my college football the same doesn’t really qualify.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Okay. Sounds like a good recruiting pitch.
Which is why the NFL has no real interest in competing with that.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:42 pm to bamafan1001
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If im being completely honest, my interest in cfb is not relative to the skill of the players. If all the best HS players went immediately to the NFL and cfb was playing with 225 lb linemen like the 50s and 60s...id still love it.
Another thing is that some young men are just not fit for college...but gifted physically enough to play a sport professionally. They should have that chance. Right now that kid just goes to a school to play football and pretend to be a student with an advisor sending him to the easiest classes he can take to be eligible and probably while writing all his papers.
I'm going to go ahead and suggest that the NFL and it's players association should be able to set the guidelines on who is eligible to play in the NFL.
Similarly, the NCAA should be able to determine the guidelines and rules for eligibility within the NCAA.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:44 pm to olemissfan26
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I think athletes should be paid on their image. They should have allocated money from jersey sales and be able to make money off social media and other online sources.
They can do that today. They just can't capitalize on it and maintain NCAA eligibility.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:45 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Again, not the point I'm making. But, 74-72*.
FTFY
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:47 pm to moneyg
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They can do that today. They just can't capitalize on it and maintain NCAA eligibility.
You’re being obtuse. You know the poster means they should be able to capitalize on those opportunities while maintaining eligibility.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:49 pm to CoachChappy
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I wouldn't mind the NFL being on the hook for repaying a University for developing the player. There has got to be a way to calculate room, board, equipment, facilities, coach's pay, etc for each player. The NFL team that drafts or picks up the player first is on the hook.
So, the college player generates millions for the university, then the NFL has to pay the university for the privilege of hiring their player? We going to apply that across the board? Engineering? Business? Lots of big government lovers up in here.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:50 pm to Feindav
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This is a true development league that is trying to get going. Supposedly starts this coming summer. It seems pretty legit. I think they really only need one top 20 recruit to choose them and not a college, and all the other kids will be tempted. The NCAA needs competition.
Your comments are incredibly off base with reality.
The NCAA has something that league will never have...market share. It's the fandom that comes with the NCAA that provides the revenue generation. If you think talent pool dictates demand, take a look at the minor leagues in baseball.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:51 pm to Parmen
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I 100% am against paying college athletes a salary.
I'm not. Especially since they can't get part time jobs.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:56 pm to bamafan1001
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. I do think its BS that a simple majority vote can raise your taxes to fund a stadium for an NFL team. You should have federal protections that allow you to opt out of paying extra local tax to fund that if you dont wish to.
What business is it of the U.S. Congress what San Diego or Houston wants to spend (or not) their money on? If the citizens of Detroit decide that the revenue generated by the franchise will offset the tax increases, then it's none of Texas', Florida's, or California's business. Why people keep calling for Federal authority over local issues is beyond me.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:04 pm to Tantal
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Why people keep calling for Federal authority over local issues is beyond me.
This is true, though I would still say this culture of massive corporate welfare giveaways, which is by no means limited to pro sports by the way, is a completely arse backward way of doing things and emblematic of everything that’s wrong with America. And I say that as a huge sports fan.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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dinosaur take
No its a fact
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:30 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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This is true, though I would still say this culture of massive corporate welfare giveaways, which is by no means limited to pro sports by the way, is a completely arse backward way of doing things and emblematic of everything that’s wrong with America.
Agreed. The government shouldn’t be picking winners and losers.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:33 pm to moneyg
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I'm going to go ahead and suggest that the NFL and it's players association should be able to set the guidelines on who is eligible to play in the NFL.
Similarly, the NCAA should be able to determine the guidelines and rules for eligibility within the NCAA.
Its not that simple. Both of these institutions get public taxpayer help
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