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re: NFL and using cfb as a farm system
Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:42 pm to bamafan1001
Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:42 pm to bamafan1001
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The restriction on players having to have 3 years out of HS is BS. Its a way for the NFL to weasel out of having a development/minor league.
An 18 year old's body isn't physically ready for the NFL. Its a safety issue.
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:48 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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This is a true development league that is trying to get going. Supposedly starts this coming summer. It seems pretty legit. I think they really only need one top 20 recruit to choose them and not a college, and all the other kids will be tempted. The NCAA needs competition.
This is a true development league that is trying to get going. Supposedly starts this coming summer. It seems pretty legit. I think they really only need one top 20 recruit to choose them and not a college, and all the other kids will be tempted. The NCAA needs competition.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:52 pm to Parmen
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I 100% am against paying college athletes a salary. Their salary is getting free tuition, room and board, perks, etc. on the taxpayer's dollar.
Especially since many won't even graduate and will quit school early to join NFL if they get drafted.
Do you think someone like Bill Gates who left school early would be undeserving of a collegiate academic scholarship in retrospect?
Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:57 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Let's say that 90% of the 4 and 5 star athletes signed minor league deals as a result.
Then good for them because 90% of your 90% ain't going to college to get an education my friend.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:01 pm to moneyg
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The universities are making a ton of money in the status quo.
Yeha, but they could make so much more. Someone needs to pass this idea to Joe Alleva.
The NFL payback system sponsored by Coca-cola. I can see the billboards now.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:05 pm to Feindav
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The NCAA needs competition
It already has it, other colleges. No one has to play football. They can just attend college or get a job.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:06 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Then good for them because 90% of your 90% ain't going to college to get an education my friend.
I'm not debating that point. I'm debating the idea that the 90% has the inherent value people think they do, and somehow a different system would be more "fair" to the athletes. Their value is overwhelmingly derived from entertainment, and 99% of that entertainment is because they are playing for a school, not because it's a display of athleticism for athleticisms sake or something else.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:07 pm to CoachChappy
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Yeha, but they could make so much more. Someone needs to pass this idea to Joe Alleva.
LSU fans are finally realizing how broke they are.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:08 pm to bamafan1001
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Right now that kid just goes to a school to play football and pretend to be a student with an advisor sending him to the easiest classes he can take to be eligible and probably while writing all his papers.
Some stellar college athletes go on to do marvelous things once their football playing days are over: doctors, engineers, military careers, broadcasting, teaching, etc. However, any attempt to hold incoming athletes to the same standards as the rest of the student body are greeted with calls of racism when, in fact, the reverse is true.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:39 pm to TeLeFaWx
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LSU fans are finally realizing how broke they are.
No man, its a dig at our AD who will try to monetize anything. Seriously, Im waiting for him to sell wall space in the bathrooms.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:41 pm to bamafan1001
I don’t know that the NCAA should pay players but blocking them from making money on their image rights is absurd and the age limit on going pro is absurd
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:46 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Their value is overwhelmingly derived from entertainment, and 99% of that entertainment is because they are playing for a school, not because it's a display of athleticism for athleticisms sake or something else.
Ehhhhh teams that win make a lot more money than those that don’t, Texas A&M excluded.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:47 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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No one has to play football. They can just attend college or get a job.
Okay, but why block them from making whatever money they can make on the side? Alabama doesn’t have to pay Tua but why should Tua be prevented from being the spokesman for the Tuscaloosa area Insomnia Cookies? Or blocked from taking $100 from EA to put his likeliness into a video game? Why should he be forced to stay in college when it’s very possible he’d be a first round pick this year?
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:54 pm to CoachChappy
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Seriously, Im waiting for him to sell wall space in the bathrooms.
I was always surprised Skip never put in pay toilets.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:30 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Would fans stop going to college football games and head to the minors? No. People aren't going to see miraculous displays of athlecism and the game for the games sake. They are going to watch their school. This hypothetical minor league would be no better than minor league baseball, and the athletes would make pennies.
You are right. History proves this to be true as back in the 10s 20s 30s etc college football was extremely popular. This begs the question...if it wouldnt drive the fans away, why would you sacrifice the health of the sport to pay players, while at the same time opening yourself up to a Title IX nightmare scenario?
Paying players even based on image is just not an option. There needs to be an alternative for players who say "this isnt fair, id like to do something else where im properly compensated"
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Ehhhhh teams that win make a lot more money than those that don’t, Texas A&M excluded.
Again, not the point I'm making. But, 74-72.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:40 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Okay, but why block them from making whatever money they can make on the side?
Local boosters would give them bs jobs and pay them way more than that job is worth, while the player probably never even shows up. You would have business in Baton Rouge, Tuscaloosa, Athens, etc competing to hire top recruits as an "assistant" for $100,000 a year or something crazy like that.
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Why should he be forced to stay in college when it’s very possible he’d be a first round pick this year?
Blame this on the NFLPA not the NCAA.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:44 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Okay, but why block them from making whatever money they can make on the side? Alabama doesn’t have to pay Tua but why should Tua be prevented from being the spokesman for the Tuscaloosa area Insomnia Cookies? Or blocked from taking $100 from EA to put his likeliness into a video game? Why should he be forced to stay in college when it’s very possible he’d be a first round pick this year?
Because when you look at this pragmatically, it would destroy the game. Bigtime programs would just get richer with talent. Youd also have boosters paying players thousands to be "spokesmen" for made up companies.
The best thing the NCAA can do is to acknowledge that it may be unfair but to maintain the sport, you can either choose to forgo your image rights in order to remain eligible or choose to not play CFB.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:47 pm to bamafan1001
College football players should at the very least be allowed to make money of their likeness from jersey sales, local commercials, signings, events, etc.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:48 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Blame this on the NFLPA not the NCAA.
Indeed...who is really the offender in all of this? Its the NFL.
It would be one this if the NFL was completely independent, didnt rely on public funding, tax breaks, etc but it isnt doing that. It is getting all this taxpayer help while at the same time using taxpayer funded institutions to be its minor league because its too much trouble for them to start one.
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