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re: NFL and using cfb as a farm system
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:52 pm to Tiger Prawn
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:52 pm to Tiger Prawn
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An 18 year old's body isn't physically ready for the NFL. Its a safety issue.
You literally quoted this and still didnt read it:
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Its a way for the NFL to weasel out of having a development/minor league.
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development/minor league.
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development
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minor league
Im guessing you are one of the mindless downvoters
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:54 pm to bamafan1001
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Youd also have boosters paying players thousands to be "spokesmen" for made up companies.
#1 So what?
#2 Even if for some reason we agreed this was bad, you could very easily institute some kind of “value for services” test
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:55 pm to TigerSaintCubSox
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College football players should at the very least be allowed to make money of their likeness from jersey sales, local commercials, signings, events, etc.
They can do this...but at the expense of their eligibility
Thats the whole point of this thread. Players who want/need to make money playing football should have a good alternative to cfb in order to do so
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:57 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Blame this on the NFLPA not the NCAA.
#1 I’m not blaming the NCAA for the draft age
#2 blame the NFL first with the NFLPA as complicit.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:57 pm to bamafan1001
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They can do this...but at the expense of their eligibility
Which is a bad way to do things
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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So what?
Already made my case on this. If you think CFB would still do fine with this going on, we can agree to disagree
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:03 pm to bamafan1001
Do you think a touted HS prospect that can't get over the hurdle of making an NFL roster (like any number of notable college players over the years), would be better off in the future having floundered in anonymity in an NFL "developmental league" for 3-4 years after high school on the equivalent of A or AA baseball pay, than he would by having the ability to showcase his name on a big time college team for 3-4 years and, if he so applies himself, earning free a degree from a noteworthy institution?
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:03 pm to CoachChappy
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I wouldn't mind the NFL being on the hook for repaying a University for developing the player.
What about NASA, Apple, or any other corporate entity? Should they also repay the universities that develop their employees?
How about hospitals repaying university medical schools for the costs of developing doctors and nurses?
What's the difference?
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:06 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Do you think a touted HS prospect that can't get over the hurdle of making an NFL roster (like any number of notable college players over the years), would be better off in the future having floundered in anonymity in an NFL "developmental league" for 3-4 years after high school on the equivalent of A or AA baseball pay, than he would by having the ability to showcase his name on a big time college team for 3-4 years and, if he so applies himself, earning free a degree from a noteworthy institution?
Players should at least have more than one option
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:07 pm to bamafan1001
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paying collegiate athletes i
If you think about it they are paying them.
Do you think tuition, food, room and board, wardrobe, travel and transportation, elite facilities to work out in is cheap?
Their scholarships are worth hundreds of thousand of dollars.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:07 pm to bamafan1001
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If you think CFB would still do fine with this going on, we can agree to disagree
See my edit about a “value for services” test
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:08 pm to MillerLiteTiger
Their scholarships are a waste of time, at least tuition wise. What’s the average ACT of an SEC football player, 18? These guys have no business in college classrooms nor will most do anything worthwhile with their education
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Do you think a touted HS prospect that can't get over the hurdle of making an NFL roster (like any number of notable college players over the years), would be better off in the future having floundered in anonymity in an NFL "developmental league" for 3-4 years after high school on the equivalent of A or AA baseball pay, than he would by having the ability to showcase his name on a big time college team for 3-4 years and, if he so applies himself, earning free a degree from a noteworthy institution?
Maybe, maybe not. Thats a decision good HS baseball players have to make every single year. Should be no different for football
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:08 pm to TigerSaintCubSox
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College football players should at the very least be allowed to make money of their likeness from jersey sales, local commercials, signings, events, etc.
People often say this, but the reality is that it would benefit what, maybe 5% of all college football players?
No offense intended to Lester Cotton, but he's not gonna make any money off of this. The very small percentage who would make money are the ones who need it the least.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:09 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Players should at least have more than one option
I guess, theoretically perhaps. But, that doesn't mean making it so won't possibly make it worse off for the vast majority in the long run.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:12 pm to BamaGradinTn
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People often say this, but the reality is that it would benefit what, maybe 5% of all college football players?
That’s really not relevant. It’s an artificial restraint on trade.
Also the video game would come back, which by itself would give at least 50-100 bucks to every FBS player.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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See my edit about a “value for services” test
Same opinion. Playing cfb is a privilege, not a right. Tua could sign a deal with car companies and Nike right now and start training for the 2020 NFL draft, probably cashing a nice paycheck
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:17 pm to bamafan1001
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Playing cfb is a privilege, not a right
dinosaur take Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:18 pm to bamafan1001
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Should be no different for football
If you want college football to turn into college baseball in terms of national popularity/notoriety, sure.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:19 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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If you want college football to turn into college baseball in terms of national popularity/notoriety, sure.
This is a secondary concern
Restraining trade so that you can continue to have your entertainment in the same manner you’ve always had it is just not a good enough reason.
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