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re: Next Governor of the State of Florida
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:02 am to tide06
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:02 am to tide06
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If you like Tim Scott vote for Donalds, if you like JD Vance vote for Fishback.
Well I can't vote for either since I'm not in florida. But your description certainly complicates my perspective.
I think Tim Scott is a genuinely nice guy and average politician but he truly comes across as a token. And I happen to be fond of JD Vance and have him as my preference for 2028.
But I'm in Oklahoma where I get to choose either the RINO or the Democrat. Every time. "Most conservative State in the Union" and the best we can give the Senate is JD Lankford. We have our problems.
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:39 am to TigerAxeOK
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But I'm in Oklahoma where I get to choose either the RINO or the Democrat. Every time. "Most conservative State in the Union" and the best we can give the Senate is JD Lankford. We have our problems.
Try living in Louisiana where we have Louisiana versions of Looney Tune characters running the show.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:59 am to TigerAxeOK
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But I'm in Oklahoma where I get to choose either the RINO or the Democrat. Every time. "Most conservative State in the Union" and the best we can give the Senate is JD Lankford. We have our problems.
Well don’t feel too bad, your problem is the same problem nearly every other red state has: the GOP party apparatus is completely owned and controlled at the state and county level by the same groups that own DC republicans.
I keep challenging people to try to get involved at the county level to see for themselves how bad it is but mostly they won’t and think I’m exaggerating.
My county in FL was 82% for DeSantis last cycle yet the entire county GOP wouldn’t do a thing for Trump in the general.
Is some of that residual bad blood from the primary? Sure.
But they didn’t do anything from a GOTV standpoint in 2020 from what I could tell either and that was before the primary where they went head to head.
Bottom line I don’t think anyone AF/MAGA has any support in most states from the GOP and has to be imposed on them against their will by the voters.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:23 am to PorkSammich
quote:just don't frick it up is his job. Unfortunately as long as he does that the White guilted boomers cucks will seal clap him in as their token for the WH.
Well he was a Democrat a decade ago. He’ll win because he’s the GOP establishment is backing him. I’ve met him, very sharp and personable but think it’s going to be a huge drop off from Desantis.
As of right now he's done nothing special, to meet what people are propping him up to, but he's riding his skin color.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:40 am to HagaDaga
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just don't frick it up is his job. Unfortunately as long as he does that the White guilted boomers cucks will seal clap him in as their token for the WH. As of right now he's done nothing special, to meet what people are propping him up to, but he's riding his skin color.
I support Fishback but Donalds from a voting standpoint was one of the most conservative members of Congress.
He had a 100 score from the Heritage foundation.
He’s an 89 from TPUSA.
91 Freedom score.
Either way FL should be fine, but Fishback would be the most AF candidate ever elected to major office in the US.
I just can’t see him or anyone in FL overcoming the Trump endorsement in the current cycle and Donalds is a far more acceptable pick to more moderate GOP voters and the S FL Jewish donors so I expect him to win comfortably.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:34 am to tide06
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Well don’t feel too bad, your problem is the same problem nearly every other red state has: the GOP party apparatus is completely owned and controlled at the state and county level by the same groups that own DC republicans.
I keep challenging people to try to get involved at the county level to see for themselves how bad it is but mostly they won’t and think I’m exaggerating.
I know you're not exaggerating. It's bad, really bad.
My problem is that Oklahoma is a closed-primary State (GOPe only) and I'm a registered Independent. I can play sabotage (and I do) with the Democrat primary ballots, but I'm never allowed to vote for the actual patriot challengers to these RINO incumbents.
I know I could just switch my party affiliation to Republican, but I struggle with that because I refuse to identify with the GOPe that represents the swamp uniparty. Should I just hold my nose and do it anyway to maybe be more effectual? Maybe, but my brain keeps telling me "no".
At the local and county level, I've knocked on doors promoting candidates in the past. I've tried to do my part there. But I definitely won't do that for higher offices again. Last time I did, I actually helped campaign for JD Lankford for US Senate because he was very convincing that he'd get to DC and be a force for conservatism. Instead, he became Establishment Swamp the moment his feet landed on the Senate floor. I had never felt so politically disappointed and dejected in my life.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 12:02 pm to TigerAxeOK
I think the precinct strategy had promise which would’ve amounted to a ground level takeover of the GOP at the county party level up, but much like project 2024 it was never embraced by the WH.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 12:07 pm to tide06
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If you like Tim Scott vote for Donalds, if you like JD Vance vote for Fishback.
If fishback was anything like Vance, he’d be polling much higher with shorter odds on the betting markets.
He’s the Nick Fuentes candidate, which is why he has zero shot.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 12:36 pm to BurlesonCountyAg
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I’d move to Florida if it wasn’t for the humidity
You adapt to it. Being near the coast makes it much more tolerable. Also, having a screened in swimming pool is mandatory for this Florida man.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 12:40 pm to FLTech
This Florida man has concerns about Donalds. He seems to be avoiding public appearances and speaking situations. I’ve also not seen his policy positions of criminal justice and law enforcement.
I’m a bit concerned and have not made up my mind yet.
Fishback is a hard no. I think that guy is a con artist. A Thomas Massey kind of guy.
I’m a bit concerned and have not made up my mind yet.
Fishback is a hard no. I think that guy is a con artist. A Thomas Massey kind of guy.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 12:56 pm to 632627
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If fishback was anything like Vance, he’d be polling much higher with shorter odds on the betting markets.
Fishback is Vance if Vance was openly opposed to AIPAC.
His issues with polling are downstream of Donalds getting the MAGA endorsement which in FL is almost unassailable in a primary and having a mountain of donor money to run ads.
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He’s the Nick Fuentes candidate, which is why he has zero shot.
Opposing AIPAC doesnt make someone a Fuentes candidate and Im not aware of him ever saying anything antisemitic so I disagree with that take.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:04 pm to FLTech
Fishback is better than Donalds and it isn’t close
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:09 pm to Speckhunter2012
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Byron Donalds
Nah, frick that guy.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 3:34 pm to tide06
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Fishback is Vance if Vance was openly opposed to AIPAC.
What does aipac have to do with a gubernatorial race? Israel is a matter of foreign policy, if fishback wants to impact foreign policy, he should run for senate or congress, not governor.
Since he’s so focused on aipac and Israel during his campaign, it’s clear he’s just a groyper and is speaking to that crowd. He’s not a serious candidate and it’s showing in the polls and betting market.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 3:35 pm to FLTech
All those damn racists in Florida voting for the black guy. How'd that happen?
Posted on 6/13/26 at 4:27 pm to 632627
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What does aipac have to do with a gubernatorial race? Israel is a matter of foreign policy, if fishback wants to impact foreign policy, he should run for senate or congress, not governor.
It has a lot to do with this race because Fishback pointed out from the jump how much AIPAC support and S FL donor money is backing Donalds.
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Since he’s so focused on aipac and Israel during his campaign, it’s clear he’s just a groyper and is speaking to that crowd.
So anyone who has concerns about donor influence is a groyper if they call out AIPAC for pushing an agenda on behalf of a foreign nation? No.
That's the same BS the left uses to attempt to frame the right as fascist and here you are trying to coopt it to avoid having to address the underlying criticisms hes outlined related to their role in this primary.
Its not antisemitic to have questions or concerns about the influence of Israel on American politics or why the hell they're donating so much money on state level elections which to your own point has nothing on its face to do with foreign relations.
Do you have an explanation as to why a foreign nation should be allowed to support candidates for state level elections? Because I cant think of any good reasons why we should allow that whether its China, Poland or anyone else, but AIPAC keeps coming up because they're allowed to donate directly and have a network of US billionaires acting on their behalf to enhance their influence.
No foreign nation should have the impact they have right now on our domestic politics and they're being criticized because they put their nose in our business, not the other way around.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:25 pm to tide06
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AIPAC support and S FL donor money is backing Donalds.
Has aipac funded his gubernatorial campaign? Or is he just referring to aipac funding him as a congressional candidate?
Also, what’s wrong with S Florida donor money? Aren’t broward and Miami dade the most populous counties? Why can’t they back their desired candidate?
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:37 pm to BurlesonCountyAg
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I’d move to Florida if it wasn’t for the humidity
There’s a breeze here. You get used to it. Florida is the best state in the US and it’s not close
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:37 pm to tide06
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the influence of Israel on American politics or why the hell they're donating so much money on state level elections which to your own point has nothing on its face to do with foreign relations
Show us where “Israel” has donated a single dollar to any US election. AIPAC isn’t Israel.
Also, i haven’t seen anything about aipac impacting state or local elections. It’s all federal.
ETA- a quick google search reveals that AIPAC and its affiliated pacs are only chartered to donate to federal candi;dates they do not participate in state or municipal elections..
given that, yea, it's safe to say Fishback talking about Israel or AIPAC in his gubernatorial race is groyper slop, and you bought it.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:49 pm to Speckhunter2012
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I have watched Byron Donalds for several years now. Impressive.
Translation:
I’ve seen him on Fox News.
Byron Donalds is on record agreeing with Kamala Harris on several issues. All of them centered around race. He’s also published articles where he calls for more “equity” in both government and private lending.
Turn off the TV, boomer.
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