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re: Newt: an absolutely rigged election in 2020

Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452344 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:10 pm to
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In order to get back into the White House.
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He didn't have to make such a bad deal to get back in. That was the larger point.

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Notice they don't mind his saying the election was stolen they just don't want him doing anything to prove it.

Puffery and Trump go together like peas and carrots.

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Most likely around the time he defeated Ron in the primaries.

Pre- assassination? That doesn't make sense in the CT sphere.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47491 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:10 pm to
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I try to stay grounded in what I or others can prove. Anything outside of that would just cause me unnecessary stress.

That’s not true of you or of anyone else. Everyone operates, to some extent, on beliefs and gut feelings. Life would be unlivable if every decision started with “I think therefore I am.”

Do you think Trump is taking bribes? I do, but it can’t be proved unless he loses his laptop or something. He can always say that the airplane was for the US Air Force, or the Saudis billion dollar investment with Jared had no quid pro quo, or his fund manager made those trades on his own with no inside tariff information from Trump. Do you think Trump is innocent in all of this because it hasn’t been proved? If so, that leads us to the conclusion that you assume almost everyone on Capital Hill is honest.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:10 pm to
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We're having a discussion about the legal process. Judicial rulings are important in that specific discussion.


Naw. You’re trying to avoid the discussion by focusing on the legal rulings to sidestep the real question. Keep tap dancing. It’s woefully unimpressive.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452344 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:11 pm to
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The funny thing is I'm 99.9% certain that he knows fraud occurred and understands that the Democrats intentionally facilitated fraud the key word being intentionally. He's just arguing to argue because he thinks it makes him appear smart

No. I've just been waiting on the Kraken for 4.5 years, now.

Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
1673 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:13 pm to
The 2020 Election, Covid, and especially Jan 6 were all rigged.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452344 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:14 pm to
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You’re trying to avoid the discussion

I've been asking for evidence since page 1 and have kept that alive since then.

The closest response was a general comment made about Lindell having the evidence, which I did have a response to.

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by focusing on the legal rulings to sidestep the real question.

Once it got into a discussion of legal proceedings, legal rulings became very important, especially for claims of some level of coordinated impropriety (up to and including fraud)

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120619 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:15 pm to
You’re avoiding discussing the law by quoting the ruling. You wouldn’t allow that if you were on the other side of the argument. But you don’t have many cards to play with this particular discussion. Keep on filibustering.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131540 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:20 pm to
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I've been asking for evidence since page 1


"According to Wisconsin LAW, was the selective allowance of elective absentee ballots in Dane and Milwaukee Counties LEGAL?"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452344 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:22 pm to
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You wouldn’t allow that if you were on the other side of the argument.

That's an assumption not in evidence

I certainly don't think I've ever excluded a binding precedent to promote a conspiracy theory, arguing my subjective belief in the illegitimacy of that precedent is somehow evidence for the conspiracy.

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But you don’t have many cards to play with this particular discussion.

I have the ultimate trump card, apparently: requiring evidence.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452344 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:23 pm to
See, the808bass? He's trying to manufacture an illegitimacy in the precedent as evidence of the conspiracy. That's why the actual ruling and actual precedent matters.

I'll drop it, per your requests, as the law and facts are settled on that issue. I won't engage in hopium-infused CTs on that wavelength anymore.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131540 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:40 pm to
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I'll drop it

I won't.

You are a lawyer.

I'm someone who can recognize a dodge from miles away.
You are dodging.

The question is straightforward.

"According to Wisconsin LAW, was the selective allowance of elective absentee ballots in Dane and Milwaukee Counties LEGAL?"

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120619 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:44 pm to
You lost.

Womp womp.

frick off.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
1117 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 6:53 pm to
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No. I've just been waiting on the Kraken for 4.5 years, now
like I said pretending to be stupid. When a party goes out of its way to intentionally facilitate fraud they don't do it by accident.

If you intentionally create the voting that are impossible to check running around bragging about the fact nobody could check isn't exactly a flex
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 6:54 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9211 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:11 pm to
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This is not how things work, my brother. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". What you have there is called a conspiracy theory.


I just asked a simple question.

And yet you are unable to answer it.

Pretty amazing.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9211 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:12 pm to
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The 2020 election was clearly an outlier, for various reasons. We were in the middle of a worldwide pandemic for one. We were coming off one of the most unpopular administrations ever, secondly. That's not evidence of fraud. It doesn't exclude fraud occurring on some mass scale, either, but it's certainly not evidence of fraud.


Did I say anything about fraud lawyer? No I did not. Try to pay attention.

Perhaps reread my very simple two questions and try to provide an answer.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
80037 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:42 pm to
Bill Maher had David Mamet on saying this and he got all pissy.

Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
39037 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:43 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


Dude has 450,000 posts on Tigerdroppings.

He has conservatively over 500,000,000 downvotes. Think about that.

Dude is a masochist.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 7:44 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131540 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:43 pm to
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You lost.
So did the country ... badly!
Because legal attitudes, like journalism, have turned to crap.

SFP was taught in law school that FACTS DON'T MATTER.

Despite the moral and ethical ramifications, in some ways that "teaching" is reasonable or at least justifiable. But where the same "teaching" becomes an excuse for unconstitutional outcome, the shark is jumped.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 7:47 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
80037 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:45 pm to
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The FBI spent the better part of a year preparing social media platforms to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story and withheld information from the companies when they wanted to know whether or not the laptop was authentic, despite knowing the laptop was real long before the 2020 election.



This is fraud. Attempt to deceive for gain.





Fraud. Intent to deceive for gain.




This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 7:48 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
85281 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:48 pm to
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Dude has 450,000 posts on Tigerdroppings.

He has conservatively over 500,000,000 downvotes. Think about that.

Dude is a masochist.


And that’s just his main account. He definitely uses alters.
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