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re: Newly Released Peter Strzok Doc
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:26 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:26 pm to Darth_Vader
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That’s rush coming from you. You’ve the biggest lying sack of shite on this site. Every post you e made in this thread has been noting but lie after lie. You’ve yet to say even one thing that is true.
SFP is like every other lawyer I’ve known. They have no interest in right and wrong - only making a counter argument - normally for whomever is paying them. In this case I think he just enjoys being the contrarian no matter how ridiculous it may sound.
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Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:40 pm to jimmy the leg
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The other night, you said that the drone pilots who killed the US citizen (that Obama ordered to be blasted to the afterlife) were responsible for murder…not him.
That seems like you're taking a bit of liberties.
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Which is it?
The two situations are not comparable to make the question binary.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:47 pm to SquatchDawg
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They have no interest in right and wrong - only making a counter argument
I'm discussing the potential issues with criminal liability and Constitutional Law. Right and wrong aren't really a part of that discussion.
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no matter how ridiculous it may sound.
I think part of this reaction is making assumptions about the allegations being facts that aren't actually facts.
For example, all of the claims they "knew" it was false, making it effectively an assumed fact as part of the analysis, when that's not what the reports actually said. I've said from the initial release that the subjectivity and opinions involved are going to give everyone involved a lot of leeway. This thread has a lot of people completely ignoring that to frame it incorrectly.
So yeah, if you're looking at it wrong, it's going to sound absurd to discuss it outside that framing.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:52 pm to jimmy the leg
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The other night, you said that the drone pilots who killed the US citizen (that Obama ordered to be blasted to the afterlife) were responsible for murder…not him.
Rutroh
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:53 pm to moneyg
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Rutroh
naw
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:59 pm to Jbird
this is the one motherfricker I really want to see wearing an orange jumpsuit...
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Don't know why so many downvote this other than who wrote it. You're basically preparing them for the weasely way the trash in DC gets away with their unethical acts.
The question is based around what criminal liability exists from that direction by the POTUS.
Obama ordering this may insulate the people under him from criminal liability
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Don't know why so many downvote this other than who wrote it. You're basically preparing them for the weasely way the trash in DC gets away with their unethical acts.
The question is based around what criminal liability exists from that direction by the POTUS.
Obama ordering this may insulate the people under him from criminal liability
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:12 pm to Jake88
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You're basically preparing them for the weasely way the trash in DC gets away with their unethical acts.
Correct.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:24 pm to SquatchDawg
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SFP is like every other lawyer I’ve known. They have no interest in right and wrong
He struggles with truth. He thinks truth is determined based on how a corrupt system decides it.
Everyone knows what actually happened.
It’s a true limitation of his mental capacity.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The two situations are not comparable to make the question binary.
You’ve been in retreat all day.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
To know that the information was false and still order a full on investigation is criminal!!!! no freaking questions
Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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For example, all of the claims they "knew" it was false, making it effectively an assumed fact as part of the analysis, when that's not what the reports actually said. I've said from the initial release that the subjectivity and opinions involved are going to give everyone involved a lot of leeway. This thread has a lot of people completely ignoring that to frame it incorrectly.
Case in point. Making an argument despite the facts in front of you.
The reports are pretty clear that they knew this was a political tactic pushed by HRC as discussed in the meeting, they all agreed to go with it, they suppressed any contrary opinions, they relied on the Steele dossier that they knew was false and used this narrative to engage the state and perjure themselves in front of FISA judges and Congress…while leaking this information to the press. What in this chain of event points to them not knowing this was a false narrative?
Good argument counselor but the jury thinks you’re full of shite.
This post was edited on 8/8/25 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:20 pm to moneyg
quote:What? He's telling you how they are going to skate.
He struggles with truth. He thinks truth is determined based on how a corrupt system decides it.
Everyone knows what actually happened.
It’s a true limitation of his mental capacity
Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:23 pm to Jake88
They may very well skate.
But his position that there’s no evidence that they knew the information regarding Trump’s collusion was false…despite their own texts, emails, notes and other intel assessments…..is completely without merit.
But his position that there’s no evidence that they knew the information regarding Trump’s collusion was false…despite their own texts, emails, notes and other intel assessments…..is completely without merit.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:28 pm to SquatchDawg
He's putting it on Obama.
quote:Is he saying there's no evidence or saying they can claim they didn't know the information was false? These people live in a world of insulators and plausible deniability. Just look at the Clintons and their issues during the 1990s. The law firm records, the FBI files in the White House. Skate, skate, skate. Look at the clownshow Comey and hillarys emails and the "no intent" and "no reasonable prosecutor" standard.
But his position that there’s no evidence that they knew the information regarding Trump’s collusion was false…despite their own texts, emails, notes and other intel assessments…..is completely without merit.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:29 pm to Jbird
Didn’t we see pics of him there?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The two situations are not comparable
What a moronic take.
It is the SAME man giving orders.
In one instance, you claim his underlings are guilty. In another, you claim that they innocent.
In BOTH instances, the committed crimes by following orders.
You are such a disingenuous hack sometimes.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Obama didn’t do anything wrong!
You can’t prove Obama did anything wrong!
Obama may have done something wrong, but you can’t prosecute him!
Obama clearly did something wrong, but you can’t prosecute anyone because of immunity cooties!
You can’t prove Obama did anything wrong!
Obama may have done something wrong, but you can’t prosecute him!
Obama clearly did something wrong, but you can’t prosecute anyone because of immunity cooties!
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:18 pm to moneyg
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He struggles with truth. He thinks truth is determined based on how a corrupt system decides it.
We are discussing potential criminal liability
Not the truth
Trials are not about the truth. They're about evidence.
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Everyone knows what actually happened.
My point above proven in real time.
What you "know" and what you can prove (via evidence) are two different things.
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