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re: New York State Just Legalized Abortion up to Birth

Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
99 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:08 pm to
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Who knows.


but you know that abortion is ok. GTFO here with that nonsense

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Wrong. It's the law. That's a statement of fact. You're asserting that it shouldn't be legal. It's on you to support that assertion. That isn't an appeal to authority.


You said .... “Wrong. Abortion is legal, which means people have decided that it should be legal. If you disagree, you need to make an argument for why it should be banned. ”

So because someone else said it’s legal you don’t have to provide any explanation of why it’s ok? That’s an appeal to authority. Instead of logically stating why abortion is ok, you say “because they said so”

Regardless, the answer is simple...

YOU DONT KNOW WHEN LIFE BEGINS


Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
99 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:10 pm to
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I'm always amused by people who think something like abortion is "pretty straightforward" while doing nothing about it.


What? You should easily be able to tell me why abortion is ok since you are defending it so vehemently. Why can’t you? Why do you avoid it?

I already told you why it’s not ok
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:11 pm to
Disgusting Democrats
Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
99 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:14 pm to
I’ve seen “progressives” fight to save sea turtle eggs, ready to give their lives for fricking sea turtle eggs and numerous other species

But they could care less about a fetus that can live outside of the mother

Go figure
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
4138 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:14 pm to
Absolutely everything..I could be getting a lecture from a hedge fund manager or librarian for all I know. I’m not critiquing your opinion or the fact that your comments have the same weight as mine, but your background certainly helps me understand your viewpoints.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:18 pm to
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but you know that abortion is ok.


Another assumption.

Fail. Again.

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You said .... “Wrong. Abortion is legal, which means people have decided that it should be legal. If you disagree, you need to make an argument for why it should be banned. ” 


Right. In response to your claim that I'm the one who needs to prove you wrong. You made the assertion. You need to support it.

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That’s an appeal to authority. 


No, it isn't. Again, you don't even know what that means.

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YOU DONT KNOW WHEN LIFE BEGINS 


Neither do you.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:19 pm to
Do you think abortion is "pretty straightforward?"
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:19 pm to
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You should easily be able to tell me why abortion is ok since you are defending it so vehemently.


Wrong.

Again.
Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
99 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:20 pm to
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Neither do you.


So let’s terminate fetuses... seems like a logical conclusion when you don’t know when life begins


I mean I guess I should just go ahead and ask. Do you think abortion of a 24 week old fetus should be legal?

I’m not really sure because every time I said you support it you say I am making an assumption.
Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
99 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:21 pm to
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Do you think abortion is "pretty straightforward?


When did I say that? Go back and read

ETA: my mistake, thought that was to me.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 7:23 pm
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
4138 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:22 pm to
Not at all, which is why I’m pro choice..however, it’s pretty straightforward when aborting a viable late term fetus and then seeing people celebrate that new law without any scientific understanding of the situation. How bout answering my question now
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:28 pm to
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So let’s terminate fetuses... seems like a logical conclusion when you don’t know when life begins


I don't like abortion, but if you're going to claim they should be banned, you need to do better than "we don't know."

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Do you think abortion of a 24 week old fetus should be legal? 


No.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:30 pm to
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Not at all


Good, because that's what I was talking about.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:30 pm to
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She also said many times a doctor will tell the mother, (because something went wrong in the pregnancy) this is best to terminate this pregnancy "but we can't legally help you, you have to go to another state"


IE: your child may have may have downs and who needs that.. Pathetic..
Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
99 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:32 pm to
Ok so you are just a troll.

Carry on.

I gave my reason for why a perfectly healthy fetus shouldn’t be aborted.... If you can’t say if a fetus has life or not, and support it with evidence (especially a fetus of the age that modern technology has kept alive outside of the mother) then you shouldn’t be able to terminate it.
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
4138 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:36 pm to
No doubt..cheers
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:39 pm to
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Ok so you are just a troll.


What a bullshite cop-out.

My disagreement with something doesn't mean New York shouldn't be able to set their own laws.

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I gave my reason for why a perfectly healthy fetus shouldn’t be aborted


"I don't know" isn't compelling. If that's as far as you're able to take your argument, that's fine, but don't pretend that anyone who disagrees with you can't support their position.
Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
99 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:43 pm to
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What a bull shite cop-out.


Nope. I clearly laid out my beliefs, you dance around yours. Trolls gunna troll.

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"I don't know" isn't compelling. If that's as far as you're able to take your argument, that's fine, but don't pretend that anyone who disagrees with you can't support their position.


It’s also not a compelling argument for why you should be able to terminate. Especially when said organism has unique DNA, different blood type, a beating heart, brain waves, and has demonstrated the ability to be able to survive outside of the mother.

I’ll wait for you to give reasons why it’s not a life.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 7:48 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:48 pm to
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Nope. I clearly laid out my beliefs, you dance around yours.


I'm not interested in your beliefs.

Your beliefs are irrelevant. So are mine.

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It’s also not a compelling argument for why you should be able to terminate. 


Cool story. You're the one who made the assertion.

Support it.

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Especially when said organism has unique DNA, different blood type, a beating heart, brain waves, and has demonstrated the ability to be able to survive outside of the mother.


Cool. So why should we be able to tell New York that they can't have their own laws?

Ultimately, what is it that you want?
Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
99 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:49 pm to
I’m making a case for why abortion should be illegal

Obvious troll is obvious

This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 7:51 pm
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