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re: New Trump sexual assault accusation from the Huffington Post

Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:38 pm to
Grazing a tit or asking for a kiss didn’t quite have the umph Dems needed in 16. Prepare for accusations of all-out rape, attempted murder, and sodomy.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Prepare for accusations of all-out rape, attempted murder, and sodomy.

Yep. The twitter crazies are already pushing some bs about Trump raping a 12 year old.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:51 pm to
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Prepare for accusations of all-out rape, attempted murder, and sodomy

Throw in a little beastiality and you got urself a party.
Posted by texridder
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 2:33 pm to
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In my mind that woman there ruined any credibility of her claims by virtue of obvious and blatant financial gain.
What financial gain? And don't talk about the after-the-fact GoFundMe stuff.

What financial gain was she out to get when she first brought it up? She wasn't thinking about testifying. She wasn't even thinking of Kavanaugh being confirmed. She was trying to get it out so that Kavanaugh wouldn't be nominated. She called the Wash Post anonymously. Weeks later she called her congresswoman and then through her sent a letter to Senator Feinstein, again requesting confidentiality. She only became involved personally when her name was leaked, against her request.

So how does this show that her motive was financial gain?
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 2:34 pm to
Nope, hold up....I was talking about the new lady and her book. I may have confused the person in the photo.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 2:56 pm to
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And don't talk about the after-the-fact GoFundMe stuff.


that’s not how it works, lady.
Posted by texridder
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:10 pm to
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Ridder, upon what are you basing your being convinced that Kavanaugh committed this offense? As in what have you seen, read, heard personally in that regard??
I am not "convinced" that Kavanaugh committed the offense. I have never said that.

There are too many unanswered questions to be convinced of anything.

I am convinced that there are facts that could have been explored at the hearing that would have answered a good many of the unanswered questions, but were not explored.

My starting point is that I am convinced that Kavanaugh lied under oath at both his confirmation hearing for District Judge, and also at his confirmation hearing for the Court of Appeal when he testified about information that was surreptitiously retrieved by the Republicans about the proposed questions the Democrats were intending to ask Republican judges during their confirmation hearings.

Kavanaugh testified that he had no knowledge or suspicion that the information that was given him was surreptitiously obtained, when it is obvious he did.

Given that as a background, as far as the Ford issue was concerned, I have some skepticism about Kavanaugh,s assertions, especially those that seemed subject to question -- for example, his July 1 calendar entry about a party where many of his friends,including Mark Judge, attended.

Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:12 pm to
As far as that stuff is concerned, the facts are that she couldn't have known up front what GoFundMe would bring in, but also it's fact that she received, as the range goes, somewhere between 650k and 800k. Plus a loaner home free of charge. And I feel comfortable assuming other incidental items of no charge. That's just a feeling though. As far as what she used the money for, that to me seems to be a fairly thin explanation....per Ford - a home security system, a security service and housing while her family was “displaced” although it's up in the air as to housing when she also says she was gratuitously allowed use of a home. They may have hopped around a little.

But there werent any specific threats disclosed, so my own admitted biases lead me to believe the threat stuff while not altogether false was likely exaggerated.

Also, and this is mere speculation, but it's not all that farfetched a possibility that the plan for GoFundMe was indeed introduced early on with the belief that it could bring in substantial money. Perhaps that was an incentive to jump from wanting to stay confifential to let's go to D.C. and let er rip.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:15 pm to
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Nope, hold up....I was talking about the new lady and her book. I may have confused the person in the photo.
The new lady. She's not even on the radar. I haven't been interested enough yet to even look into it.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:20 pm to
Brett Kavanaugh was never a nominee for a federal district court only the DC Circuit Court of Appeals and SCOTUS

As far as Memogate, just stop with the perjury claims it’s all a load of horseshite, even leftist Vox concluded there was no crime ACTUAL LAW PROFESSORS

Rebuttal
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:22 pm to
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She's not even on the radar. I haven't been interested enough yet to even look into it.


Waiting to get your marching orders?
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:25 pm to
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There are too many unanswered questions to be convinced of anything.

10-4. Ive just gotten the impression that you are convinced of his culpability. Yep, there's bits and pieces of circumstantial evidence that can at least be considered, but at the end of the day it's a tie, if nothing else, and Id assume you might agree with that. And in the game of criminal allegations (even if not actually in court) tie goes to the runner, the accused. Because Id say even though there was no criminal penalty at stake, Kavanaugh still had considerable loss and damage on the line. So using the criminal court standard is reasonable. In doing so, and considering the evidence, Id propose that a jury would return a not guilty verdict in less than an hour.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:27 pm to
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Also, and this is mere speculation, but it's not all that farfetched a possibility that the plan for GoFundMe was indeed introduced early on with the belief that it could bring in substantial money. Perhaps that was an incentive to jump from wanting to stay confifential to let's go to D.C. and let er rip.
That might be a consideration, but I'm not sure when the GoFundMe thing was started. Of course, the Dems could have bribed her to go testify (which she wasn't happy about doing), I don't know.

But that still doesn't change the fact that she GoFundMe didn't affect her decision to get involved at the beginning.

Look, there is little doubt that the Dems did some stuff that they would not like to have come out in their dealings with Ford, but that's a separate question.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:29 pm to
Two front doors
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:33 pm to
I agree that there's too much speculation necessary to arrive at a supported opinion as to possible motive of Ford. Potential motive wasnt really necessary in the end as Kav, again IMO, gets the nod on the merits alone.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:11 pm to
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She wasn't even thinking of Kavanaugh being confirmed. She was trying to get it out so that Kavanaugh wouldn't be nominated. She called the Wash Post anonymously. Weeks later she called her congresswoman and then through her sent a letter to Senator Feinstein, again requesting confidentiality


Do you ever get tired of being wrong about everything??

When she “anonymously” sent a tip to WaPo on July 6, Kavanaugh was already widely reported as being the nominee, but Trump didn’t make the “official” announcement until July 9th. Ford sent a letter to Feinstein on July 30th and she sent one to her local rep sometime between July 6th and 30th. So, she was not trying to “prevent” his nomination by getting her story out- he had already been nominated.

So, you can throw that pathetic excuse out. Which leads us to the obvious question of why Feinstein held the letter until Sept 14- for a whole month and a half- before giving it to the FBI to investigate. Just 2 days later, WaPo revealed Fords identity. And low and behold, we find out that Ford had already hired a Dem activist lawyer several weeks earlier (on recommendation by Feinstein) AND this new legal team had already summoned a dem friendly FBI agent to polygraph Ford, and Ford had passed the polygraph that consisted of only 2 questions, neither of which Had any details from her story in them.

So if Ford never planned to go public, why had she already hired Dem activist lawyers and taken a polygraph WEEKS before her identity was revealed??

I’ll give you a hint- it’s because it was all pre-planned. By Democrats. Because they were desperate to stop Trump.

ETA: I’m sure it’s also just another coincidence that of all media outlets, she chose WaPo to send her “tip” to. Then she subsequently hires Michael Bromwich as her attorney, the same Michael Bromwich who just so happens to be representing one Andrew McCabe—against accusations of leaking FBI classified info to.....WaPo. Is it any wonder she didn’t have a problem finding an FBI agent to “give her a polygraph”?!?!

What a tangled web the Dems can weave. It’s all one big massive circle jerk con job.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 7:30 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:24 pm to
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Wow. A three emoji response. You should be embarrassed but you're too stupid to realize how inane it is for a grown man to post that instead of making an actual response in English.


You aren't a serious person. You make no attempt to be a serious person. Therefore, you do not deserve a serious response.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:27 pm to
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Because it's just part of your standard bullshite.
Nah. You just don't like obvious shite that looks bad for liberals pointed out. Oh well. IDGAF.

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Like the claim you make all the time that the other person in the dicussion doesn't even believe what they are saying. Just how stupid is that?
Liberals commonly argue shite they don't believe and they OPENLY ADMIT they don't really believe in the principle the second applying that principle would gore their own ox.

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Or when someone is stating an opinion and you call them a liar. It's an opinion jackass
Many opinions are opinions. Alas, liberals openly consider disingenuous rhetoric to be a tool in their kit bag. You would love it if people pretended not to notice but honestly, would you prefer we just think you're actually as stupid as you pretend to be?

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Yep you say that same crap all the time. it's laughable.

Maybe you shouldn't do the same crap all the time. Then people wouldn't have to point it out all the time. You're whining is like a person being pissed at the traffic cop who pulled them over doing 100. Stop doing 100 if you don't like it.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26717 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:19 pm to
Wa Po let George Freaking Conway write that crap? Mr Impartial when it comes to Trump? Who do they think they are kidding?
Posted by Rawdawgs
Member since Dec 2007
910 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:38 pm to
That is a rerun from last go round.
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