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re: New shooting in Minnesota

Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:33 pm to
Yawn.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42114 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:33 pm to
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Cito2point0


Where did all you guys come from?

Holeey shite the trolls are out in force.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2365 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:33 pm to
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But the argument for the officers just got harder.


No it didn’t.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2281 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:33 pm to
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you cannot discern what happened without statements from the agents that were there. It's too chaotic.


Leftists have already determined guilt based on credible interviews from protestors who moments prior were screaming profanities directed at these agents.

Due process only exists for illegals.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38443 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:33 pm to
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Well except that the weapon was removed prior to being shot. These overweight losers need to go back to mall security.


If the agent who fired only saw him reach for the gun and did not see the fun being removed while retreating, the fact that it was removed does not matter. You can bitch and moan all day, but legally he is just fine. It’s the totality of the circumstance.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32830 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:34 pm to
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In this case, it’s simple imo. If he was reaching for a gun, shooting is justified. If he was simply actively resisting after his gun was removed (if that was his gun) and body cam does not show him trying to reach for an officers weapon… then you can’t just shoot an actively resisting suspect.


Nothing more needs to be said than this, and quite honestly there would probably need to be a full blown trial before a jury to make a decision on this. It’s on video and you can’t even tell.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38443 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:34 pm to
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So you think the cops are justified in killing anyone who has a weapon on them? The frick?


I’m not arguing with you, because the way you worded your question is such that shows you have no intention of being honest.
Posted by The Tiger322
Member since Dec 2019
3167 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:35 pm to
Im well aware that optics dont mean anything legally and you can't say clearly justified yet, at the very best its muddy to slightly clear right now because theres information missing that will clear it up and point one way or the other. Like who's gun was the guy carrying off, was there a second gun, what were the guys hands doing because you can't see them in either video really, none of those have been answered concretely.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91396 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:35 pm to
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Not all the ICE officers saw that one of them had gotten the perps gun. It was seconds and the perp was still resisting. With mere seconds and a gun that was in his hand, they reacted in self defense.


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This will be a justified self-defense shooting all day long. The media and leftists will act like it was an execution while the facts are that he had a weapon and was shot. The fact that a second before the weapon was removed doesn’t matter at all.
Wait, the deceased was gripping his gun at some point there?

I didn’t catch that.

If that’s not true, don’t you think they shot him for no reason?
Posted by Bunkie7672
Member since Mar 2020
1306 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:36 pm to
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I’m not arguing with you, because the way you worded your question is such that shows you have no intention of being honest.


Oh I’m sorry. So just this guy in particular deserved to be shot for carrying a weapon.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38443 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:36 pm to
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These overweight losers need to go back to mall security.


Post your measurements, age, and occupation.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2365 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:37 pm to
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So you think the cops are justified in killing anyone who has a weapon on them? The frick?


Reminded of a quote that has been making the rounds lately: “It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.”
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50737 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:38 pm to
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This shite is going to happen over and over again because they’re being sent into places where the leftist politicians are encouraging their foot soldier to attack


Weird that they're not sending them to 2 of the states with the highest percentage of undocumented immigrants. Texas and Florida.

They'd have a bigger pool to fish in and full support at the state level
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38443 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:38 pm to
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Reminded of a quote that has been making the rounds lately: “It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.”


This is exactly what I thought of when I saw his response

That is their entire strategy.
Posted by Cito2point0
Member since Aug 2024
197 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:40 pm to
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Do you have the audio transcripts of what was said?


Words are justification for execution?
Posted by Westin
Member since Jan 2021
59 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:41 pm to
what makes discourse impossible are people inventing a reality that does not conform to the actual videos from the scene. The guy was helping two women that were being maced, and after trying to help one up from the ground, was pulled backwards and beaten, disarmed, and shot. There was no reaching for his gun.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2365 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:41 pm to
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Weird that they're not sending them to 2 of the states with the highest percentage of undocumented immigrants. Texas and Florida. They'd have a bigger pool to fish in and full support at the state level


Ice is currently operating in both Texas and Florida
Posted by Bunkie7672
Member since Mar 2020
1306 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:41 pm to
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This will be a justified self-defense shooting all day long. The media and leftists will act like it was an execution while the facts are that he had a weapon and was shot


Explain this like I’m 5, retard.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6194 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:42 pm to
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Weird that they're not sending them to 2 of the states with the highest percentage of undocumented immigrants. Texas and Florida.


They’ve been in both those states longer than in Minnesota
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7846 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:42 pm to
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Did they know any of that when approaching him, taking him down, taking his gun, and blasting him?

They saw a threat, they were up close and personal with him.

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To answer your question, I’d consider that person a bigger threat than others given I knew all of that. But I still would take their gun and shoot them if they weren’t trying to harm me.


Can you come up with a single good reason he was so heavily armed stalking the officers?
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That’s a fact. It would have been a lot better. But it didn’t happen. And now some ICE agents are potentially looking at serious consequences.

Not going to happen, we trust LEO to defend themselves from a perceived threat.

And if they were wrong there are consequences.

But we have a heavily armed aggressive person stalking LEO while armed and carrying enough ammo for a massacre.
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