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re: New shooting in Minnesota

Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91385 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:24 pm to
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How was Obama able to deport more illegals than Trump without having masked agents stopping citizens at random, going door to door, grabbing legal residents at their immigration checkins, breaking down doors without a judicial warrant?
What percentage of these were at the border?
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55167 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:25 pm to
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So now they are just to assume every person has as many guns as possible and any resisting should be met with death?


My position is that LE can't be compelled by Law to assume that an armed and combative suspect that is actively resisting arrest with physical force is in possession of only one firearm or other deadly weapon.

Once an armed suspect is actively fighting and resisting arrest, his threat to inflict death or great bodily harm on the LE agents is a continuing threat to inflict death or grievous bodily harm.

Once that legal threshold is reached by the unlawful violent actions of the suspect, the Law must allow LE a great amount of discretion to eliminate the threat using deadly force.

IF you are resisting arrest by fighting with officers AND you are carrying weapons on your person, YOU are actively presenting an imminent threat of inflicting death or grievous bodily harm on the arresting LE. Under those circumstances, the Law must allow great discretion to the arresting LE to eliminate the threat using force, including deadly force.

Is there something illogical about my line of thought here?
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
11988 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:26 pm to
Holy shite, how many more murders are they going to commit in this city?
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 12:26 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128742 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:26 pm to
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Police chief reported that the guy killed had a licensed conceal carry and no criminal record.


And that means?
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19393 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:26 pm to
It would be a non lethal solution.
Posted by SnacknGold06
Member since Oct 2025
137 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:27 pm to
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And that means?


Just replying to the comment about planting a weapon.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:27 pm to
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Dude was fighting 5-6 armed federal officers . My hunch is on him having a death wish. Plus I’m not inclined to believe 5 ice would all decide at once to unload on someone in a public space while being filmed. Makes no sense. But I recognize how badly you want this to be a murder.


This is called projection. I made no definitive statements about what is going on here bc I don’t think the video is clear. You are the one who is admitting you aren’t using any actual evidence, but your own “hunch” and what you are “not inclined to believe.” I am just saying why rush to a conclusion?

You are clearly the one really invested in this ending a certain way. I don’t care
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128742 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:27 pm to
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Holy shite, how many more murders are they going to commit in this city?


When was the first one?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90416 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:28 pm to
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It would be a non lethal solution.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90416 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:28 pm to
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Holy shite, how many more murders are they going to commit in this city?

Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
4047 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:28 pm to
I thought this board was pro 2A? Just not when it’s a liberal I guess
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:28 pm to
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We've entered looney land.


quote:

I can link everyone to a relatively recent officer involved shooting, where the first thing the police reported to the media was the gun they found on the decedent. Unfortunately, once the body cam was released, you see the officer shot the guy when he was running away, nothing was in his hands, and the gun was not visible.


You have entered “I suck at Reading Comprehension” Land.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7725 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:29 pm to
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This shooting looks really bad for ICE. The ICE guys look like fricking idiots and can’t get this guy apprehended on the ground with 6 dudes on him. And he’s clearly subdued getting his arse beat then gets a clip unloaded into him.

Time to pull the reigns back

Even if the first part is legit, the last thing that is needed is to pull the reigns back. Democrats brought the war, so blinking is what they expect and want. They will sacrifice a few to get their media lackeys to do the rest.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55167 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:29 pm to
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The agents approached and pushed/escorted him towards the sidewalk.


What matters is this: Once the suspect started fighting and resisting LE using any kind of physical force, that suspect broke the law and can legally be put under arrest.

Once you touch a police officer, you may very well have committed the crime of assault on a police officer.

If a police officer comes up to you and starts to try to move you out of the way DO NOT push the officer back. If you do, you have committed a crime.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90416 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:29 pm to
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I thought this board was pro 2A?
Does that mean I can act stupid?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20183 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:29 pm to
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You need LE experience to think 5 guys should be able to subdue 1 without deadly force?


Ummm you are defending a guy that was armed and resisting arrest….stop and think about that for a second.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:31 pm to
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Holy shite, how many more murders are they going to commit in this city?


They aren't murders, but as many as it takes.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11927 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:32 pm to
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Bonkers119


better put that helmet back on son and crack a snack pack

Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:32 pm to
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There’s 1,000 officer involved fatalities in the US every year. How many of those go like the one you wanna cite?

Very few. My point still stands that having a gun found isn’t immediately inculpatory evidence.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128742 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:32 pm to
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I thought this board was pro 2A? Just not when it’s a liberal I guess


What did you say about Ashli Babbit so I can compare your stance on law enforcement and deadly force?
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