re: New PayPal Policy Lets Them Pull $2500 From Users Accounts If They Promote ‘Misinformation

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Where your fault lies is in the idea that you think the two entities (government and private industry) in these situations are separate.

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The fact that one company is doing this today, and the rest are not, shows the difference.

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ESG is a perfect example. These policies aren’t just appearing in a bubble.

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Sure they are.

Companies have been doing this PR shite since before you or I were born. People have chosen to polarize themselves in bubbles, which makes any piece of news the worst/best or biggest thing ever. It's a trigger of emotional thinking and tribalism meant to cede power to an actual authoritarian government. frick all that.

Even if you want to drop the "WEF" boogeyman...that's not a government, either.

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Perfect examples are the “conservative” alternatives to Twitter (

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Twitter, which may be being sold to a non-Leftist, in a week or 2. That's not a good example of your argument.

Paypal balance

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That cant hold up in court....right?

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I don't see why it wouldn't.

Although I could see some states enacting legislation to get press. This would likely lead to Paypal just withdrawing services from those states.

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What's the third option?

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Any corporation getting any subsidies is a government entity at this point. I'm pretty goddamn libertarian but corporations and governments have joined in an unholy union that needs to be stamped out.

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he fact that one company is doing this today, and the rest are not, shows the difference.

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Who are the rest? Cashap and Zelle? Zelle probably cant since they are owned by banks and are more regulated than Paypal. Cashap is too small so I doubt they want to rock the boat too much.

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Companies have been doing this PR shite since before you or I were born. People have chosen to polarize themselves in bubbles, which makes any piece of news the worst/best or biggest thing ever.

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This is more than PR. Saying they can take money from you because they disagree with your thoughts and speech is way beyond anything any company has ever attempted before and again it's a slippery slope.

We always ignore these types of things with the type of thinking you just outlined until it's too late.

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Twitter, which may be being sold to a non-Leftist, in a week or 2.

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He admitted he has voted Democrat his entire life. He's still a Dem it's just that the left is so far left he is now considered middle of the road with a left lean.

So what would be the steps needed to start and PayPal/credit card like company?

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You don't have to leave it in there. They can freeze your account to hold the next bit of money you take in.

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So conceivably, I could make a $10 transaction they "solely deem inappropriate" and they could charge me $2500 in "punitive damages?"

If it's linked to a credit card or other account, is there BS language buried in there where they'll try to recoup their penalty there?

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I'm asking for realistic responses.

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An authoritarian regime protected by laws that controls the vote?

Is there any realistic response that doesn't involve guns and death?

Given that what is "misinformation" changes by the fricking day and only a fool would still use paypal for anything.

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The fact that one company is doing this today, and the rest are not, shows the difference.

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And we will see if the others follow suit.

Another perfect example is the “misinformation crusade” of social media entities.

And that is pretty much ALL of them.

Totally normal behavior without any external intervention.

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Companies have been doing this PR shite since before you or I were born.

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I am not sure you can call linking investments to ESG scoring simply a “PR move”.

It has had a pretty tangible impact on the economy, particularly with the O&G sector.

There are always other factors, but it isn’t simply a PR move.

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People have chosen to polarize themselves in bubbles, which makes any piece of news the worst/best or biggest thing ever. It's a trigger of emotional thinking and tribalism meant to cede power to an actual authoritarian government. frick all that.

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You are already on the pathway there.

It is simply governmental intervention, rules, and regulations filtered through the tech industry.

As we continue to move further and further towards fully electronic transactions, we will cede more and more control to these companies.

It is how I predict gun control to be enacted.

It won’t be through legislation. It will simply be through the rules and regulations of the few remaining banks, backed by the US government.

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Even if you want to drop the "WEF" boogeyman...that's not a government, either.

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That is simply a think tank of the world’s wealthiest and powerful individuals.

Their power comes through monetary influence on the politicians filtering their horrible ideas downwards and through control of the financial and investment institutions.

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Twitter, which may be being sold to a non-Leftist, in a week or 2. That's not a good example of your argument.

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It wasn’t the concept of Twitter itself that I was referencing.

It was the fact that the tech monopolies that do exist prevented any alternatives from arising.

Society is so far behind when it comes to tech and the internet that we have no idea how to deal with these monopolies at this point.




Also, why do you select three sentences/points in a post and then neglect every other aspect of the argument?