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re: New OECD study shows that Obesity is based on culture, not affordability of food

Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:57 pm to
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tigerinDC09


New York times on food desert myth

But even IF it were true that food deserts exist, studies show that PROXIMITY to stores that sell produce DO NOT affect obesity rates .

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Dr. Sturm [lead author of the Rand study] found no relationship between what type of food students said they ate, what they weighed, and the type of food within a mile and a half of their homes. He has also completed a national study of middle school students, with the same result — no consistent relationship between what the students ate and the type of food nearby.

Living close to supermarkets or grocers did not make students thin and living close to fast food outlets did not make them fat.


Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:57 pm to
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So what else can explain this besides choice and culture, liberals?


From the full text:

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Education and socio-economic background affect obesity.
Posted by Jorts R Us
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:58 pm to
Gulf coast states represent!
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:00 pm to
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studies show that PROXIMITY to stores that sell produce DO NOT affect obesity rates .


Can you provide one of these peer-reviewed studies? Not needling you, I just don't have the time to do a lit review this week.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:00 pm to
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But even IF it were true that food deserts exist, studies show that PROXIMITY to stores that sell produce DO NOT affect obesity rates .
You (and everyone else on the forum) need to read this LINK
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:01 pm to
Dude, MEXICO and EASTERN EUROPEAN NATIONS have lower obesity rates than America.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Education and socio-economic background affect obesity.


I never said that food deserts were the sole reason for obesity.

I said explicitly that education and culture were a large part of it.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:04 pm to
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Can you provide one of these peer-reviewed studies? Not needling you, I just don't have the time to do a lit review this week.


The NYT article I linked included it.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:05 pm to
What about obesity within subcultures? Idgaf about Japans obesity Numbers
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:05 pm to
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I said explicitly that education and culture were a large part of it.
I just can't picture an adult needing to be told that something is healthy and something else is not.

These are basic things that occurred where I grew up.
Posted by Deuces
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:05 pm to
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MEXICO and EASTERN EUROPEAN NATIONS have lower obesity rates than America.


Mexico is higher on Wikipedia. I agree with you on the food desert bullshite though.

I think the obesity rate comes from lack of knowledge of nutrition for the most part, especially in lower socioeconomic areas. That and just lack of fricks. "I'll eat what I want and like" kind of attitude.

The problem with the liberal mindset is everyone is a victim of everything. Your weight is your responsibility.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:06 pm to
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I just can't picture an adult needing to be told that something is healthy and something else is not.


Low IQ people make bad choices. This is why they are poor. And it is also why they are fat.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:07 pm to
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Who thought that it did?

There she comes, she heard food aND she came a runnin'!
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:07 pm to
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I just can't picture an adult needing to be told that something is healthy and something else is not.

These are basic things that occurred where I grew up.

Most adults are slaves to whatever habits they picked up as children. It takes great effort to break out.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 3:08 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:08 pm to
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Low IQ people make bad choices. This is why they are poor. And it is also why they are fat.
I knew by 8 or 9 years old what I should be eating.
Posted by Sidicous
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:08 pm to
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I just can't picture an adult needing to be told that something is healthy and something else is not.



Low IQ people make bad choices. This is why they are poor. And it is also why they are fat.


How'd that school lunch reform of Moochelle's work out for lowering obesity?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:10 pm to
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Most adults are slaves to whatever habits they picked up as children. It takes great effort to break out.
Here was my education:

My Dad's entire family was obese and gross, and I hated being around them in public because it was embarrassing. I saw what they ate (and what they didn't), and decided to do the exact opposite.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:10 pm to
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quote:I just can't picture an adult needing to be told that something is healthy and something else is not. These are basic things that occurred where I grew up.

Most adults are slaves to whatever habits they picked up as children. It takes great effort to break out.


This is why I think it's important to post in here. So many people can't even grasp the effects that growing up poor have on you.

Like I said before, I would be punished if I didn't finish my meal, which was almost always high in fats and sugars. These effect you even after you are grown and can make decisions on your own.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:11 pm to
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I just can't picture an adult needing to be told that something is healthy and something else is not.

It's discipline, dude! The same people that are fat as shite are the same people that are poor are the same people that are illiterate are the same pepole that commit crimes in high numbers.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:12 pm to
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I knew by 8 or 9 years old what I should be eating.


So how'd it work out buying groceries for yourself and telling your family that you won't eat what theyre cooking because they're fat and gross?
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