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re: New OECD study shows that Obesity is based on culture, not affordability of food

Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by tigerinDC09
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:51 pm to
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The type of food we eat isn't having near as big an impact as the size of the portions we eat.


Yup, American culture, southern culture all of these compound.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:52 pm to
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Yup, American culture, southern culture all of these compound.
It's not just southern culture. I live in southern california and even here it is unhealthy. Lots of the "mexican" food here is tex-mex and filled with unhealthy sauces and certain cheeses.
Posted by OneFifty
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:55 pm to
I have at times poked fun at those claiming 'food deserts'. I live in a rural area, and the nearest cities are not large (to the point) to allow for such. This may indeed be an issue elsewhere.

However, though I seldom venture into supermarkets, the occasions in which I do reveal an epidemic of obesity among all ethnicities of shoppers. I can not speak to the causes in large urban areas elsewhere, but here in the 'sticks' the problem is not the availability of healthy food.

Culture and apathy are the culprits in my opinion, not ignorance. In fact, there is a pervasive culture OF apathy.
Posted by tigerinDC09
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:56 pm to
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It's not just southern culture. I live in southern california and even here it is unhealthy. Lots of the "mexican" food here is tex-mex and filled with unhealthy sauces and certain cheeses.


Right, almost any "Americanized" version of international foods are worse for you than the original.

Our tastebuds have evolved to require this in America. Healthier, less tastier foods are less rewarded in the marketplace and so they cost more or fail.
Posted by tigerinDC09
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:00 pm to
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ulture and apathy are the culprits in my opinion, not ignorance. In fact, there is a pervasive culture OF apathy.


When you have hot dog eating contests, you leave from apathy to outright celebration of gluttony.

This is ingrained in our culture.
Posted by OneFifty
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:01 pm to
I agree.
Posted by Tyrusrex
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:03 pm to
If you're going to talk about culture and obesity, we're gonna have to address the elephant in the room. Why are Republican states the most obese?
LINK

What is it about Republican culture that causes obesity?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:08 pm to
Lazy poors want cheap food that they don't have to cook and they dgaf about their health.

It's really not culture, just laziness and apathy.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:10 pm to
Your gotcha attempt failed.

According to that map, of the 5 thinnest states, 2 are republican, 2 are democrat, and 1 is a swing state.

NY, washington, Minnesota, VT, and NJ all have similar obesity rates to Idaho, WY, AZ.

Blue states (before trump at least) like MI, WI, PA, and Maine all are among the most obese.

The deep south is obese because of culture.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:15 pm to
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So what else can explain this besides choice and culture, liberals?
You can see that the most obese countries are the ones with the most codified "food pyramid" type of bullshite federal, state and local directives which have ordered entire populations to binge on carbohydrates for decades. I'd like to see the same chart but for diabetes.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:17 pm to
You could put a grocery store in a food desert and its survivability would be on sugary and unhealthy foods. Not because the poor can't afford bananas, lettuce, and tomatoes. Most of them are impulsive and low IQ which makes them choose instant gratification rather than long term benefit. Bad and impulsive decisions along with laziness are what keep them mired in poverty.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:22 pm to
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According to that map, of the 5 thinnest states, 2 are republican, 2 are democrat, and 1 is a swing state.



Can you point out which ones are which on the list from that map?

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47 California 24.2%
48 Montana 23.6%
49 Hawaii 22.7%
50 District of Columbia 22.1%
51 Colorado 20.2%


And if we're looking at the 5 thinnest, don't we have to contrast that with the 5 fattest?

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1 Louisiana 36.2%
2 Alabama 35.6%
2 West Virginia 35.6%
2 Mississippi 35.6%
5 Kentucky 34.6%


Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:25 pm to
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According to that map, of the 5 thinnest states, 2 are republican, 2 are democrat, and 1 is a swing state.

NY, washington, Minnesota, VT, and NJ all have similar obesity rates to Idaho, WY, AZ.

Blue states (before trump at least) like MI, WI, PA, and Maine all are among the most obese.

The deep south is obese because of culture.



Only 2 democrat? I think you need to make better use of your fingers to count. Lets see the 10 thinnest states.

are Colorado --> swing, but swinging more to Democrats.
Hawaii --> Democrat
Montana --> Republican, but really small population
California --> Democrat
Massachussetts --> Democrat
Utah --> Republican
New York --> Democrat
Vermont --> Democrat
Connecticut --> Democrat
New Jersey --> Democrat
Rhode Island --> Democrat


By my count that's 7 Democratic states, 2 Republican, 1 swing.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69330 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:34 pm to
Sorry, I was just looking at the map you linked and the colors. I didn't notice the actual stats.

Anyway, states are not people.

The two fattest groups in America are hispanics and Blacks, the two groups that vote the most democrat.

It's silly to think that someone's political views influence their weight.

In fact, it's like saying someone's favorite sport influences their favorite color.,
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:35 pm to
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You can see that the most obese countries are the ones with the most codified "food pyramid" type of bullshite federal, state and local directives which have ordered entire populations to binge on carbohydrates for decades.


There's absolutely nothing wrong with eating carbohydrates provided you actually get your heart rate above the resting rate occasionally.

There are no good carbs if you live a completely sedentary life.
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:36 pm to
LOL, don't think we'll ever get a response, facts are only relevant when it fits their narrative.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69330 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:36 pm to
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1 Louisiana 36.2%
2 Alabama 35.6%
2 West Virginia 35.6%
2 Mississippi 35.6%
5 Kentucky 34.6%


3 of those states voted for bill clinton by huge margins twice.

Why are bill clinton voters so fat?
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:39 pm to
Have you been to your Local Walmart? Obesity is striking all ethnic groups.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69330 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:40 pm to
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Obesity is striking all ethnic groups.
Yes, but....

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Among U.S. adults, Black and Latino populations have substantially higher rates of obesity than do White populations. This is true among both men and women.


LINK
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:43 pm to
YOu still have to explain fat Republican States like West Virginia. And the number of fat African-American and Hispanics, still doesn't account for all the obesity of the state.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 4:45 pm
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