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re: New Court Filings Show Grand Jury Properly Voted On Indictment of Former FBI Head Comey

Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by Trojans56
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:10 pm to
Damn it’s getting to be a full time job down voting SFP.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:17 pm to
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If the OP tells you a crow will fornicate with a buzzard, please, believe the OP.


Cheers, Timeoday. I really do appreciate you and your posts. I think we've done our best to illuminate our positions.

Friendly ornithological tip: we don't have "buzzards" in the United States. Our vultures were mistakenly called "buzzards" by European settlers because they looked like the old world buzzards.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:19 pm to
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Damn it’s getting to be a full time job down voting SFP.


In court, you can just make a "continuing objection." It's gotten so tribal here, maybe we should ask Chicken for an automatic downvote option.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20038 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:19 pm to
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Damn it’s getting to be a full time job down voting SFP.


Don't bother. I've learned the he doesn't believe anything he posts.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143859 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:28 pm to
Even if entire jury didn’t see the indictment without the 3rd count doesn’t invalidate the indictment.

It’s a simple scrivener's error. I didn’t go to honors college or law school and even I know that much.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:36 pm to
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It's probably stupid to clarify legal points here, but


I think it’s a prudent discussion

First, I agree that Lemons is a solid attorney and his pleadings and oral arguments are well crafted.

Nevertheless, the magistrate judge’s observation is correct. There will be a new ruling of law. Russell and its progeny identify two non-defective amendments

(1) A scriveners error

It’s unlikely we fall into this bucket. There aren’t typos. There is a procedural issue that must be discussed. That is, Halligan didn’t merely type James Coney or write “Teh”

(2) A lessening of charges on a fully voted on indictment

That is, the government presented ABCD. The GJ voted and approved ABCD. ABCD was presented to the clerk and the court proceeded on ABCD. The government then chooses to amend to only proceed on ABC

This is distinguishable. The government presented XYZ. The issue at law will be if the GJ can separately vote for X then Y and then Z or may it only vote on the transaction XYZ (e.g. like a veto compared to a line item veto). If they can only vote on the transaction then no bill was returned. If they may separately vote on each count, a true bill was returned and the foreman signed the bill reflecting the will of the GJ (e.g. he resolved the hanging chad)

Personally, I think the will of the GJ should control but there is a question of law

This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23269 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 2:56 pm to
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Cheers, Timeoday. I really do appreciate you and your posts. I think we've done our best to illuminate our positions.


Cheers, IvoryBillMatt. I really do appreciate you and your posts. I think we've done our best to illuminate our positions.

If you say a buzzard is not a buzzard but a vulture, I will take that to the grave!!

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 3:01 pm to
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If you say a buzzard is not a buzzard but a vulture, I will take that to the grave!!


Thanks, Brother.

And...through the process of our discussion, I think that the Court WON'T dismiss on the technical issue with the indictment:)
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 3:09 pm to
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Personally, I think the will of the GJ should control but there is a question of law


Thanks for the thoughtful comment. I agree, and think that the judge won't dismiss BASED ON THIS LAPSE.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23269 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 3:14 pm to
I know you do. Let's both hope no more time is wasted so what is to be can get here as soon as it can.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16503 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 3:18 pm to
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Despite the media's best efforts to misreport and cover for their favorite deep-state actor, James Comey.


That would be Shitty Schiff
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23269 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 4:16 pm to
What a rascal he is for sure. POTUS Trump may be just letting Schiff stew in his own juices for now.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23269 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 4:17 pm to
No doubt about that. Get some meat on those bones!!
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
8038 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 4:22 pm to
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Your lack of honesty has already been noted. We didn't need you to prove it any further.


That's funny. I don't recall you ever criticizing any of the Democrat operatives like the weasel Andrew Weissman. I would assume you agree with this unethical slug.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 4:25 pm to
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I don't recall you ever criticizing any of the Democrat operatives like the weasel Andrew Weissman


You mean the guy who basically ran the Mueller Investigation that exonerated Trump? No, I didn't criticize that exoneration.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 4:41 pm to
Here's the Defense's Motion to Dismiss based on the indictment defect.

Defendant's Motion to Dismiss
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15719 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:31 am to
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Your lack of honesty has already been noted. We didn't need you to prove it any further.


Your #1 goal on this board is to obfuscate and deflect for dems and everyone knows it. Me pointing that out doesn’t make me dishonest.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37624 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 7:07 am to
Is it the DoJ's contention that presenting it to the GJ was not necessary and that the prosecutor has the discretion ?

If so, I think the government is on really shaky ground.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50105 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 7:29 am to
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I couldn't imagine living a live without honor like that.


And yet, you won't even give President Trump credit for securing the Southern border. Dude, there's very little if any "honor" residing inside of you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 7:31 am to
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Your #1 goal on this board is to obfuscate and deflect for dems and everyone knows it.

Everyone = complete idiots

The funny part is the same low IQ types said the same thing when I would criticize people like GWB and John McCain, and now those same people hate them
This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 7:32 am
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