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re: Need an explanation on homosexuality
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:33 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:33 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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You one of those idiots who was brainwashed. Any man who advocates for perverts is a pervert himself.
As one who discusses morals values a great deal, are insults one of those values? If not, you sure do use them a lot.
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:34 pm to antibarner
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The thing is, at least so far, if someone does not think gays should be allowed to marry they have the right to express that opinion and hold that stance.
Absolutely. I disagree totally with this statement, but people can say whatever stupid things they want within reason. Can't yell fire in a crowded theater,etc.
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I dare say most people hold this opinion, as election after election would show.
I dare say you are wrong.
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But many that hold the opposing viewpoint wish to deprive them of Freedom of Religion and the right to hold whatever beliefs they see fit to. If you disagree they want you silenced and in a lot of cases persecuted and punished.
Nope. Stupid people can believe whatever they want to believe. However, if they wish to deprive a minority their constitutional rights, it doesn't matter if 99 percent of the people want to deprive 1 percent of their constitutional rights. People can not do that.
So a majority does not grant them the right to do anything they want to do. They still have to follow the constitution. And prohibiting gays the right to marry many find against the constitution.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:36 pm to antibarner
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Jesus would be telling them to repent and sin no more
Perhaps. Maybe Jesus would not agree with their lifestyle. My guess is Jesus also would be telling those who cheat on their spouses to repent and sin no more.
But Jesus surely would not stand for them being persecuted. Jesus surely would not be telling governments to deny them rights. Jesus surely would speak out against them being discriminated against.
Again... this isn't a religious issue. If one believes on religious reasons that homosexuality is wrong, ok. We are talking about legal issues.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:38 pm to antibarner
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And are you aware that a media assault versus those that express a differing viewpoint would have the left howling like banshees if it were directed at one of their pet causes?
I happen to agree with you here. However, with the internet the way it is and social media the way it is, well it is what it is.
Free speech is clearly protects only from the government. Just like people would be free to give money to different political causes, the government can not prevent people from saying things in response to this. If they want to mount a boycott of your company, that is the way it is.
I hate to say it, and while I disagree with it, the fact is it is not against the law.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:40 pm to AUsome Possum
quote:what does it even mean to 'believe' in homosexuality, bigot?
Where I have a question is that I don't understand why calling someone who doesnt believe in homosexuality or is a homophobic, ignorant.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:40 pm to ApexTiger
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How many of you would trust a gay male teen to babysit your children?
I'd trust a gay male teen before a straight male teen.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:41 pm to antibarner
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I beg to differ.
Then pass the bar and take a case to the SCOTUS. Try to make the argument that media singling you out for your views are a violation of the first amendment. Go on.
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If I fire someone for wearing an "I can't breathe!" T Shirt what do you think would happen?
It is a violation for persecuting me for expressing my viewpoint in a peaceful and lawful manner. If I vote a certain way am I to be punished for that?
Get real.
There are legal standards at play here. Just because you feel wronged doesn't mean the Constitution has been violated.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:43 pm to antibarner
That is true, but we can't speak religion on this board except in broad based terms.
These people don't believe in God dude, they believe we came from monkeys, and they don't believe in right or wrong, they all think as Aleister Crowley, DO AS THOU WILT.
As Paul stated, you tell the people, and tell them again, then you wipe the dust of the city off your feet as a testimony to them.
These people don't believe in God dude, they believe we came from monkeys, and they don't believe in right or wrong, they all think as Aleister Crowley, DO AS THOU WILT.
As Paul stated, you tell the people, and tell them again, then you wipe the dust of the city off your feet as a testimony to them.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:43 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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Because you can't have babies with 2 penises you idiot.
So women that have issues becoming pregnant aren't supposed to be parents either? Disgusting point of view in my opinion.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:43 pm to antibarner
quote:I have a suggestion for you: read the First Amendment. Seriously.
I beg to differ. If I fire someone for wearing an "I can't breathe!" T Shirt what do you think would happen?
It is a violation for persecuting me for expressing my viewpoint in a peaceful and lawful manner. If I vote a certain way am I to be punished for that?
Get real.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:44 pm to LordSaintly
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I'd trust a gay male teen before a straight male teen.
Meh. If one hires a babysitter that is resonsible and trustworthy then the sexuality of the babysitter should probably be irrelevant.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:46 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:Agreed.
Meh. If one hires a babysitter that is resonsible and trustworthy then the sexuality of the babysitter should probably be irrelevant.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:46 pm to buckeye_vol
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Meh. If one hires a babysitter that is resonsible and trustworthy then the sexuality of the babysitter should probably be irrelevant
I agree. I was pointing out the absurdity of his assumption that homosexual males are more likely to molest your kids.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:46 pm to thetempleowl
Temp, the reason these issues are passionately debated is because sin complicates everything. If it was so clean and clear as you suggest it would not have the conflict it has from the beginning.
YOU are being pretty narrow and hard lined on the issue.
You don't have the birth right to marry the same sex anymore than declaring polygamy "is a right".
If the majority say no, its a no. Its still a civilization.
YOU are being pretty narrow and hard lined on the issue.
You don't have the birth right to marry the same sex anymore than declaring polygamy "is a right".
If the majority say no, its a no. Its still a civilization.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:47 pm to antibarner
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I beg to differ. If I fire someone for wearing an "I can't breathe!" T Shirt what do you think would happen?
It is a violation for persecuting me for expressing my viewpoint in a peaceful and lawful manner. If I vote a certain way am I to be punished for that?
Get real.
People get fired for being outspoken on controversial issues all the time.
1st Amendment protects the people from the government, not from other individuals.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:50 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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These people don't believe in God dude
Doesn't matter.
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they believe we came from monkeys
Nobody really believes this. The fact is we are both descended from a common ancester millions of years ago.
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and they don't believe in right or wrong
Incorrect.
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As Paul stated
I really couldn't care less what Paul said 2000 years ago. Well, maybe that is slightly incorrect. I suppose as a historical type of thing I might care slightly more than not at all.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:50 pm to Jcorye1
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1st Amendment protects the people from the government, not from other individuals.
It's amazing that so many people don't get this.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:50 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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That is true, but we can't speak religion on this board except in broad based terms.
These people don't believe in God dude, they believe we came from monkeys, and they don't believe in right or wrong, they all think as Aleister Crowley, DO AS THOU WILT.
As Paul stated, you tell the people, and tell them again, then you wipe the dust of the city off your feet as a testimony to them.
All I've see you do is insult others. Does your moral code say it is ok to treat others with such disdain and disrespect?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:51 pm to buckeye_vol
The majority agree with me. In poll after poll and election after election. Then the losers judge shop and the will of the people expressed at the ballot box is usurped.
But the real issue here IMO is the persecution of those in favor of traditional marriage. If the tables were turned and the pro gay marriage people were being similarly assaulted for holding their views, the uproar would be epic.
But the real issue here IMO is the persecution of those in favor of traditional marriage. If the tables were turned and the pro gay marriage people were being similarly assaulted for holding their views, the uproar would be epic.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:51 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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You one of those idiots who was brainwashed. Any man who advocates for perverts is a pervert himself.
If advocating for common decency makes me a pervert, then so be it. For claiming to be such a dedicated Christian you sure have no problem throwing around remarkably vulgar and offensive remarks towards homosexuals.
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