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re: Need an explanation on homosexuality

Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:00 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:00 pm to
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Every once in a while? That's a grand answer there. Let me rephrase. Would the human species continue if all were homosexual? Unless I have missed something it take a male and a female to procreate the species, am I right?


I don't get the overall point, but what if they procreate (e.g., artificial insemination)?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75825 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:02 pm to
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My colleagues who are gay have saved lives of many people. I will damn well guarantee you, the people they saved and who are alive today, and their families, would attest to the "benefit" of gay folks.

I'm not saying gay PEOPLE don't benefit the human race in some way. I am saying homosexuality itself does nothing to progress the human race.

Stop looking for reasons to be offended. Are you really that dense?
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 5:03 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
135618 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:04 pm to
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forcing people to accept views that they find offensive
Where forced acceptance is applicable, that is an overstep.

Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:08 pm to
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Should a state be allowed to disregard the constitution because of a simple majority?



Why do you idiots keep bringing up the constitution? The gay marriage debate has NOTHING to do with the constitution.

It has to do with one interest group really really wanting gay people to be able to get married, and another interest group that really doesn't want them to.

If you people actually gave a flying dog shite about the constitution you'd leave it up to State legislatures to decide, but then we already tried that, and even CALIFORNIA voted NO.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
40232 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:18 pm to
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If you people actually gave a flying dog shite about the constitution you'd leave it up to State legislatures to decide, but then we already tried that, and even CALIFORNIA voted NO


Because states - acting by popular vote or by legislative edict, can't override constitutional provisions.

Let's say a state decided to allow slavery, and passed a law saying slavery is now allowed. Would that be ok?

It's inhumane to use laws to discriminate against a group of people. The fact that some people use religion as a lever here makes it worse.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:19 pm to
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Are you really that dense?
No nitwit, I am actually not "dense" at all. You made a claim.
IT WAS STUPID.

If you'd like to retract it, by all means do so.
If not I'll happily embarrass you further.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:22 pm to
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can't override constitutional provisions.



There is NOTHING in the constitution that says a state has to allow gay people to get married. There just isn't. Now, does the full faith and credit clause mean that states without gay marriage have to recognize one that was gotten somewhere else? I think so, yes. But to argue that there is a constitutional right for gay people to get married is factually wrong, wrong-headed, and disingenuous.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19316 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:33 pm to
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I am saying homosexuality itself does nothing to progress the human race.


Ok. Does any kind of sex without intent to reproduce progress the human race?
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
7053 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:33 pm to
And yet gay marriage exists and scotus hasn't stopped it.

Seems like the constitution says something about gay marriage because it is legal in more than half the states in the us.
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:36 pm to
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Good lord how in the WORLD does the equal protection clause have anything to do with gay marriage? There is no right to marry somebody of the same sex!
And if I were talking about the due process clause, maybe I would be interested in your dumb nitpicking over what constitutes a right. But the equal protection clause applies to all laws, not just fundamental rights. There is no right to education in the Constitution either, but if the state provides it, it must do so equally.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20805 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:36 pm to
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Now if the Bible described the molecular genetics of human creation


But here is the thing, the Bible doesn't have to describe this to be legitimate, relevant, valid, and worthy to practice life principles by...truths are timeless. Life code values are often timeless. If they weren't then the Bible would have disappeared long ago having little to no worth or value.

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or predicted specific events at exact times that we could then check and document, then ok


The Bible does this...it foreshadowed and prophetically accounted for many historic occurrences before they took place.

See Jesus said that those who had ears to listen would listen. Those who don't would dismiss the Bible's teachings off-handedly and be confounded. Heck, that was spot on. Look at this thread.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:37 pm to
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And yet gay marriage exists and scotus hasn't stopped it.

Seems like the constitution says something about gay marriage because it is legal in more than half the states in the us.


So, you're going with, "I really really don't understand how this constitutional law book learnin stuff works," then?
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
7053 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:40 pm to
The constitution has nothing to do with gay marriage.

It's just idiots who want to discriminate against consenting adults getting tax breaks that throw that old chestnut out.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:41 pm to
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But the equal protection clause applies to all laws, not just fundamental rights. There is no right to education in the Constitution either, but if the state provides it, it must do so equally.


All 50 States provide an equal ability for a single man and a single woman to be married regardless of race, color, or creed. Talk to me when a Alabama tries to stop granting birth certificates for Hindu weddings or something, then you'd have an argument.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:41 pm to
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The constitution has nothing to do with gay marriage.



Great, then we agree.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135618 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:43 pm to
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but if the state provides it, it must do so equally.

But the state does not do so equally.
So what does that say?
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:43 pm to
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All 50 States provide an equal ability for a single man and a single woman to be married regardless of race, color, or creed.
The equal protection clause doesn't specify "race, color, or creed" as the only illegitimate discrimination. You're just adding that there to get around the obvious comparison with interracial marriage, and how it was originally dodged the same way. "Everyone is equally free to marry within their race!"
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 5:44 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:45 pm to
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The equal protection clause doesn't specify "race, color, or creed" as the only illegitimate discrimination
How about income status?
Is it OK for the state to act with prejudice in that regard?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56176 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:45 pm to
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So if a majority of people say women or blacks should not have any rights, that's ok?


How can that even be a possibility relative to the premise of your question?

Why do we vote? To find out what the public wants for itself.

That' doesn't always become a reality however, because when Obamacare came up for a vote, of the great number of American people polled, 67% were against the legislation but it passed anyways.

people are still largely against it's current form...still no change

Once something gets approved, it's hard to reverse it.

Gay marriage is something we can accept (As if we have a choice), but no law no man can make us approve it in our conscious.

Acceptance is not the issue, it's approval. when people vote, they are are voicing, "I don't approve of this for our society"

But they can love and accept gay people, what choice do they have, right? We must accept reality.

Approval is where the vote against comes in.

For Christians, if you ask us what we think, we're going to follow the lords word as our guide to a clear conscious. It's not a difficult vote if you are trying to please God. If you want to be politically correct and not offend someone, then you vote for it

We all sin, but most of us aren't trying to advertise it and we certainly aren't trying to deny it or furthermore make the general public endorse it "Approved" in a newer version of marriage. That's way out of bounds

That's why we have these passionate debates. People are stuck between political correctness and their conscious of right and wrong on sexual behavior. Cross over into a marriage and we are suddenly arguing about rights

Fro the most part, the majority of people will never fully embrace it. that's how we know it's wrong. The same with abortions. That debate will never ever simmer.

The rights for women to vote and Black freedom and rights came to be very clear, and we as a nation were wrong. It's make sense to everyone that these people be treated equally, so we changed for the better in the right direction. The sin was cut out and that's why everyone is now at peace with "Equality"

When you start using equality to justify a sin in holy matrimony all hell breaks loose.

Gay marriage may become a reality on dayin all 50 states, but in the hearts of many, it will never be approved.

that's just the way it is. Sin complicates things...

We can still love each other and should love each other. That may not be enough for Gays to accept from those who don't approve of their lifestyle.
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:52 pm to
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How about income status?

Is it OK for the state to act with prejudice in that regard?
I'm forced to choose between two alternatives here.

(1) You think this is a gotcha question, because you are unaware of the difference between rational-basis review and heightened scrutiny. Due to the knowledge gap, discussing this issue with you is more trouble than its worth.

(2) You know the difference, but think it shouldn't exist. Rather than saying so, you are playing Internet Socrates. Due to my preference for brevity and dislike of unearned condescension, discussing this issue with you is more trouble than its worth.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 5:55 pm
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