re: Need an explanation on homosexuality

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Do any of you REALLY think that the people that wrote the Constitution meant for it to be interpreted to give gays the right to marry? REALLY?

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The people who wrote the constitution owned slaves, prohibited women from holding public office and voting and believed the education system should restrict access to the higher social classes.

So I really don't care what their thoughts on homosexual unions were.

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So you actually don't think God looks down at fools and idiots and categorizes the as such ?

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I don't think he does so. Why would he do that and at the same time allow horrible things to happen? And spare me the we can not understand gods plan.

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Facts are facts, there are idiots in the world there are fools in the world, there are lazy people in the world, a just description is not in insult but rather a truth told.

If you are a pervert you are a pervert. If you are a fool you are a fool.

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No major issue here. Except for the pervert thing.

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Why do people like you want to sanitize the facts ?

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I don't.

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Jesus called out the Pharisees as being of their father the devil.

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Why do you quote something supposedly said by someone we don't even know was actually a real person from 2000 years ago? And you quote it in a book filled with mistakes. Like that should carry any weight with reality.

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If the majority say no, its a no. Its still a civilization.

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So if a majority of people say women or blacks should not have any rights, that's ok?

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There have been cases of people losing jobs because of their support of traditional marriage.

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There is a big difference between supporting "traditional marriage" and actively trying to prevent gay people from marrying. This isn't hard to see.

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There is literally nothing mentioned in the Constitution at all that relates to marriage. So you are correct, they didn't intend for it to be interpreted as making gay marriage legal. They didn't intend to say anything about marriage at all.

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Go read the 10th amendment. Seriously. (SWIDT)

They intended for the states (and so, the people) to decide things like this. It's YOUR side that has been eroding States rights for generations. That's NOT what the founders would have wanted.

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And you quote it in a book filled with mistakes.

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This is twice I've seen you say this. Care to expound?

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All those things were changed by the people largely at the ballot box.

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No they weren't

Slavery was ended by executive order from the President, against the advice of most of his advisors and to the protest of even many in the North.

Requiring the education of every youth in America was met with extreme resistance and opposed by the majority of Americans.

And as for women's suffrage, the passage of the 19th amendment was the most hotly contested in history and largely resembled homosexual unions in that the courts dragged America kicking and screaming across the threshold of progress.

You literally couldn't be more wrong here.

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Someone want to explain to me why everyone is talking about THE FOUNDERS like it's an episode of fricking Star Trek when the Equal Protection Clause was passed during Reconstruction?

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Because the idea that people like George Washington and James Madison intended to found a pseudo-theocracy is what many cling to in arguments such as these. It's essentially an appeal to the authority of those who have been dead for over 200 years.

Never mind that this narrative is blatantly false, or that many of the founders were deists or and indifferent to religion, or that the Constitution is largely set up to allow for interpretation regarding future matters which they knew would arise. They think that if they paint you as an immoral founder-hating liberal, they've won. No need to form a coherent argument.

If they do, so be it. But they won't all vote for gay marriage. It should be a States Issue.