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re: NBC: Thanksgiving Dinner is historically affordable

Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by Mellow Drama
Making Groceries
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

You may not know it by looking at the sticker prices in grocery isles, but...


Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:34 pm to
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God some of you rage monsters need to chill the frick out. I understand what it meant.

But also, you can’t pretend that wages have magically kept up with inflation for the last 4-5 years.

That’s everyone’s point.
Sure, there's been inflation in the past several years. That's no secret. That doesn't change the potential accuracy of the OP headline (I actually don't know if it's accurate, but it's not out of the question that it is).
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:35 pm to
Sounds like we need to move to a stuffing based economy.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39812 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:35 pm to
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Wages have not kept up with inflation. I repeat for the audience in the back of the room not paying attention that wages have not kept up with inflation
Over which time period?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:35 pm to
Were not families larger back then?
Posted by KCSilverTiger
KCMO
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:36 pm to
Next month they will adjust the data and slide the decimal point one space to the right. Oopsie.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19380 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:38 pm to
That's interesting how you can talk out of your a$$ and your mouth just a few posts apart. That's some talent!
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:39 pm to
The butter costs $7. So you can get the rest of the 10-person feast for $51?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:40 pm to
Don't trust your eyes lol
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19168 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:41 pm to
Well if you are eating what you are full of then that could explain why your brain doesn’t work well
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4848 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:42 pm to
Well I guess I’m voting for Biden then
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19168 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:45 pm to
I’ll go with say the wage increases from 2019 forward to the inflation increase from 2019 forward. Real wages have not come close to real inflation, and I’m not talking about the numbers released monthly or YOY. Those bs numbers don’t include enough to make for accurate data but rather a best way to tamper down
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39812 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:46 pm to
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Were not families larger back then?
I don't know if the stats are already normalized for this variable, but let's assume that they are not:

Household size 1960: 3.3
Household size 2023: 2.51

Difference: 24%

Raise current 11% spent by 24%: 13.64%

It's still a lot lower.

Taking it even further, here's per capita spending on food expressed in year 2000 dollars:

quote:

1960 (in 2000 dollars): ~$5818
2023 (in 2000 dollars): ~$4317
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39812 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:49 pm to
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I’ll go with say the wage increases from 2019 forward to the inflation increase from 2019 forward. Real wages have not come close to real inflation, and I’m not talking about the numbers released monthly or YOY. Those bs numbers don’t include enough to make for accurate data but rather a best way to tamper down
CPI from 2019 - 2023 is about 20%. Wage inflation at the 10th percentile (i.e. towards the very bottom of earners) was about 13%.
Posted by FrankDrebin
The Port o'Potty
Member since Sep 2018
988 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:02 pm to
So NBC is inadvertently telling us that Kamala's rhetoric about the need to go after companies for price gouging was bullshite and higher cost at the grocery stores are in fact due to their inflationary polices while the companies providing the goods are operating at lower margins.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
33508 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:04 pm to
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NBC News claims that the cost for Thanksgiving dinner is at a 40-year low and that you can feed a family of 10 for $58 total, or $5.80 per person.


That's some serious gaslighting right there...

Is that hotdogs and chili?
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 4:05 pm
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3840 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:18 pm to
The people who watch that shite probably don't even look at the total cost when they shop. There's a significant amount of older suburbanites that while aren't rich they have enough of a retirement where money isn't a problem. This must be their viewership populace
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19168 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:21 pm to
If you believe those bs numbers vs real inflation across the grocery spectrum then you either aren’t buying the items or you’re just oblivious about. There is very little that hasn’t gone up 30% or more. It’s so rough that most meat in large markets have replaced their suppliers with lower quality meat, just to attempt to keep a lid on it. Packaging has also changed with items on the shelves. A report came out earlier this year suggesting that it would reduce the families operating budgets that housing (rents) and car payments delinquencies would increase by years end. Well guess what it has spiked yo 2008 levels.
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
8666 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:53 pm to
Just the oil to fry the turkey is more than $50
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
5102 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 5:02 pm to
My family spent $200 all in for 8. Includes turkey, sides, desserts, and wine.

$58 my arse.

Our turkey was $40 alone.
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