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Nate Bronze trying to spin the polls

Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:26 pm
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:26 pm
Even with the early vote data this clown is trying to spin it.

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68114 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:28 pm to
I love the crazy made-up language shitelibs use. WTF is "incremental reason"? Yesterday, somebody posted something from DU that mentioned "both sidesism."
Posted by John Barron
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17101 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:29 pm to
He has already been proven wrong about Florida


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Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
7403 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:29 pm to
Nate Aluminum Foil is trying to cope with every new tweet but he's really just trying to placate his liberal friends. Deep down, he knows this momentum is real.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:33 pm to
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I love the crazy made-up language shitelibs use. WTF is "incremental reason"? Yesterday, somebody posted something from DU that mentioned "both sidesism."


The one that drives me the most crazy is adding “adjacent” beside any strong accusation you’re unwilling to outright make, or something that’s just bogus but you’re tying unrelated threads in a way you want to make an argument

Like black men trump supporters are “white adjacent”
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40819 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:35 pm to
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WTF is "incremental reason"?


From reading his previous tweets, his assertion is that basically any model output that puts the chance of winning between say, 45% - 55% is essentially a 50/50 race. Since out of a 1,000 simulations you're going to get something close to a coin flip. Therefore, Trump inching up doesn't change it mathematically from "toss up "

If Trump crosses 55% I'm curious what he will say then, because I think that's about where his line on toss up is.
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 2:36 pm
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7553 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:37 pm to
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Nate says Trump can't win Florida by 8.

Republicans lead the state by over 10 points right now.


I don't think any respected political analyst would expect every single R vote to go to Trump, nor every single D vote to go to Harris.

I don't know if 2 points is a reasonable amount, but there are way too many twitter voices declaring the race over strictly on party demographics in early voting
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84286 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:38 pm to
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Nate Aluminum Foil is trying to cope with every new tweet but he's really just trying to placate his liberal friends. Deep down, he knows they are toast.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:38 pm to
You just shouldn’t take anything he says seriously. He’s better than the MSNBC hosts that can’t hide their vitriol, but he’s just a political operative.

He’s basically outright bragged that he used his influence and displayed his model in a way to force Biden out. He knows the game is rigged and presents it in the most believable fashion possible for the longest time possible until he has to finally fold his hand after all opportunism scenarios have been bled dry.
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 2:40 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23161 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:44 pm to
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From reading his previous tweets, his assertion is that basically any model output that puts the chance of winning between say, 45% - 55% is essentially a 50/50 race. Since out of a 1,000 simulations you're going to get something close to a coin flip. Therefore, Trump inching up doesn't change it mathematically from "toss up "


So how does he make a living doing this
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68114 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:46 pm to
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He’s basically outright bragged that he used his influence and displayed his model in a way to force Biden out.

Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40819 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:47 pm to
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So how does he make a living doing this


Because people click it. I mean, he's mathematically correct on the interpretation. A lot of numbers are meaningless at the middle. But people live and die on them.

If our electorate wasn't so split, I would imagine he wouldn't make a lot of money if the odds of his model were 80/20 and we were having Reagan '84 results.

But since we've had a lot of really close races things like these models generate a ton of engagement.
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 2:48 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5623 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 3:08 pm to
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I don't think any respected political analyst would expect every single R vote to go to Trump, nor every single D vote to go to Harris.

I don't know if 2 points is a reasonable amount, but there are way too many twitter voices declaring the race over strictly on party demographics in early voting


Agree. Seems like it is being ignored.
Posted by 1putt
Member since Sep 2024
997 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 3:10 pm to
This guy just said a couple of days ago that Trump had a 90% chance of winning.

Edit: My bad. That was an RCP report
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 3:14 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23161 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 3:13 pm to
I didn’t really expect you to answer for him, but appreciate you taking the time.

My point was more that he has been making comments at small changes, but now that polls are open and people are much more likely to have made decisions, but now there is a 5% margin of error so who knows.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40819 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 3:38 pm to
I think the issue with early voting is you don't know what the denominator is yet. There's no way to calculate what either side needs to catch up. So you have a lot of decisions definitely being made but from an unknown total.

Once polla close you can start making determinations on the outcome since the denominator of total votes is known.

Early voting analysis is fun but open to big enough error is my guess to keep margins at 5%. Which I think makes sense when you saw how much ground Trump made up on election day the last two times.
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 3:39 pm
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