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re: Myocarditis Was a 'Very, Very Small Price to Pay' for the COVID Vaccine

Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:02 am to
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10109 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:02 am to
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Getting a vaccine or implementing public health policies, yes, you're right. That's why no one is talking about it.


No one is talking about it because we remember advice we received from the Pfizer CEO

Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13259 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:10 am to
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There has been no strong, reliable link established between the vaccine and
myocarditis…

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Yes, COVID-19 vaccines, particularly the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna), can cause myocarditis, a rare inflammation of the heart muscle. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has required manufacturers to add a warning about this risk to the vaccine labeling. The risk is highest in male adolescents and young adults, but the overall risk is very low and most cases are mild
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 3:14 am to
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And likely will be until you shuttle off this mortal coil.


It’s either the vax or AIDS that will get him in the end.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39718 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:39 am to
Tell that to the f loving families of all the young and otherwise healthy young folk who dropped dead.

The CCP and the Deep State profiteers can rot in hell. They KNEW and now try to hide behind good intentions and plausible deniability. They dropped that s*€t to take Trump out and Jesus knows it as well. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Real Justice is in the mail. From Above.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47233 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:28 am to
It’s not a vaccine.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
22402 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:42 am to
follow the science
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 6:49 am to
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You are delusional with your fear porn

You’re talking to the absolute dumbass that still says to this day that getting a vaccine is the same thing as wearing a seatbelt
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47624 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:52 am to
This is one thing I don’t understand about Democrats. Republicans will absolutely turn on their leaders for almost anything they deem “not conservative enough” or dishonest. But Democrats…. They eat lie after lie, scandal after scandal, grift after grift, and make excuses for these people. As a result, the absolute worst their party has to offer has risen to the top, and now they have a massive public appeal problem.

They are committing electoral suicide by carrying on these charades like Covid, Russia, Trans, Illegal Im migration, and so on. It’s fascinating.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 7:57 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47624 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:54 am to
If it is, why did the CDC change the definition of vaccines in 2021?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47233 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:04 am to
Exactly my point. Arbitrarily changed the definition, overnight, on a whim with no debate or discussion.

Just did it so everyone would blindly follow & fall in line.

Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1503 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:07 am to
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Here’s one you can answer, if you have the guts to:


Crazy4LSU is a liar. He claimed infant vaxes are given when the immune system is ready or some bs. That's not true, they give an Std vax within hours of birth even if the mother tests negative for the std. They give vaccines now to make money. Until we get that under control we shouldn't trust the vaccines or the people that administer them
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:12 am to
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Crazy4LSU is a liar.


Shut up baby dick.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47624 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:13 am to
FWIW I don’t think you are a liar.

You are just stupid enough to believe the shite fed to you by professional liars.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:18 am to
the goal posts sure did move
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:19 am to
I can concede the justification of giving Hep B at birth is weak, in so much as the only justification that I've seen has amounted to 'one case of Hep B is too many,' but again it is a harmless subunit vaccine that for some reason picked up the ire of RFK some time ago. And given the rate of vaccinations has picked up around the world, it is entirely possible that through a continued vaccination program, we could limit the disease to almost nothing across the world.

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You are just stupid enough


Nah we both know that's just some cope on your end.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8440 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 1:14 pm to
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why don't you get the studies this time?


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The percentage of children aged 10 to 30 who develop myocarditis, independent of COVID-19 or the COVID vaccine, is relatively low. According to a study, 132 out of nearly 4 million children without COVID-19 developed myocarditis during a specific time frame, which translates to approximately 0.0033%.


Overall Risk: The risk of developing myocarditis after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine is estimated to be less than 0.01%. This translates to approximately 1 to 2 cases per 10,000 vaccinated individuals. Age Group Specifics: The highest incidence rates are observed in males aged 12 to 29 years, particularly after the second dose of the vaccine. Reports indicate that the incidence can range from 50 to 139 cases per million for those aged 12 to 17 years and 28 to 147 cases per million for those aged 18 to 29 years.


So.... .0033 to .01 that is a massive increase
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11880 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 1:32 pm to
yes, good. it'll help you understand this better if you look up one more thing. Go find and post the incidence of COVID myocarditis in an age-matched population. It'll be even better if you can find a relative risk between COVID and COVID-vaccine myocarditis. lots of this stuff is paywalled, so I can post if needed.
This post was edited on 8/30/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8440 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 1:40 pm to
incidence of myocarditis following a COVID-19 infection is estimated to be around 2.76 per 1,000 infections. This translates to a 0.276% chance of developing myocarditis after contracting COVID-19.

Since the "vaccine" does not prevent covid or even limit the chance you are statistically increasing the odds thru the vaccine or catching it .

So why get it?
This post was edited on 8/30/25 at 1:43 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11880 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 1:44 pm to
Good. When you consider whether a preventative intervention is recommended, you consider the relative risk, in this case the risk of the problem you're protecting against vs. the risk of the intervention. COVID risk is much higher than vaccine risk. This is not intuitive to people who are just looking at the absolute risk.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11880 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 1:48 pm to
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Since the "vaccine" does not... even limit the chance


where are you getting this from?

But even if it was true (which it isn't), if it reduces the risk of complications of the illness, that is a medical benefit.

For example, for this myocarditis, the most notorious supposedly terrible risk of this vaccine, it still lowers your risk of developing myocarditis relative to if you were exposed to COVID without vaccine immunity (which you otherwise will be - everybody encounters the virus; it's your choice whether to encounter it with vaccine immunity or not, but whether you encounter it at all is a fait accompli). and this doesn't even consider the hundreds of other complications of COVID which the vaccine doesn't ever cause!

We've been spoiled by having (1) some great vaccines with sterilizing immunity and (2) high rates of immunization which lead to very little circulating preventable infections. This has led people to believe a vaccine must eliminate the chance of infection. This is unfortunately not possible for all pathogens.

We've forgotten the original lesson of vaccine science - a vaccine's most fundamental benefit is often lowering the risk of complications (like death or lasting chronic health problems) if you do get sick.
This post was edited on 8/30/25 at 3:40 pm
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