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My take on the worker shortage
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:19 pm
We can all plainly see that businesses - especially service industry - are struggling to get/retain employees. The quality of the worker is no longer of any concern, they just need bodies.
This phenomenon didn’t just happen, but the free money certainly exacerbated the problem. No, this has been brewing for about 5 years and really gained speed around 2018 under Trump’s economy.
On a recent family vacation, I noticed a glut of restaurants at just about every interstate exit - no matter how rural the town. I also saw help wanted signs at nearly all the restaurants as well as signs and billboards advertising company hiring efforts in the region…and lots & lots of ‘drive for us’ ads on every corporate-owned semi rig.
Folks, the problem isn’t so much that people aren’t working due to unemployment benefits. I sincerely believe we have too many businesses.
Competition is healthy for any system as it increases effort & outcomes, but we’re in a period where the employers are now competing for the worker resource and not the opposite.
In my little town of 15K people, there are dozens of job openings in the $15-$20/hr range with barely any applicants.
Another thing hampering service industry and entry level employment is a booming upper-middle class. Almost everyone I know - degreed or not - has a household income of $100K+. This kind of wealth doesn’t motivate folks to take a second gig and many times a second household income isn’t needed.
Lastly, I think the gig economy had taken folks from traditional service labor. This will only get worse as a car is usually all that is needed to “be your own boss!”.
I don’t think our country has ever seen the pendulum swing this far to the employee side. Businesses are going to close and the economy will likely have a hard landing, but the pendulum will swing back one way or another.
This phenomenon didn’t just happen, but the free money certainly exacerbated the problem. No, this has been brewing for about 5 years and really gained speed around 2018 under Trump’s economy.
On a recent family vacation, I noticed a glut of restaurants at just about every interstate exit - no matter how rural the town. I also saw help wanted signs at nearly all the restaurants as well as signs and billboards advertising company hiring efforts in the region…and lots & lots of ‘drive for us’ ads on every corporate-owned semi rig.
Folks, the problem isn’t so much that people aren’t working due to unemployment benefits. I sincerely believe we have too many businesses.
Competition is healthy for any system as it increases effort & outcomes, but we’re in a period where the employers are now competing for the worker resource and not the opposite.
In my little town of 15K people, there are dozens of job openings in the $15-$20/hr range with barely any applicants.
Another thing hampering service industry and entry level employment is a booming upper-middle class. Almost everyone I know - degreed or not - has a household income of $100K+. This kind of wealth doesn’t motivate folks to take a second gig and many times a second household income isn’t needed.
Lastly, I think the gig economy had taken folks from traditional service labor. This will only get worse as a car is usually all that is needed to “be your own boss!”.
I don’t think our country has ever seen the pendulum swing this far to the employee side. Businesses are going to close and the economy will likely have a hard landing, but the pendulum will swing back one way or another.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:23 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Well if businesses close there will be more workers. Problem solved…..
It would be a natural ebb and flow until the government gets involved.
It would be a natural ebb and flow until the government gets involved.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:26 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Another thing hampering service industry and entry level employment is a booming upper-middle class. Almost everyone I know - degreed or not - has a household income of $100K+. This kind of wealth doesn’t motivate folks to take a second gig and many times a second household income isn’t needed.
By the time Biden’s inflation storm is over a $100k household income will be near poverty level.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:28 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Oil change place I've been going to for a few years now is on the brink. 5 bays, in and out, great service. Place is always busy and brimming with business.
... but now ? They had 2 workers servicing 3 bays. TWO! I showed up on a Thurs thinking I'd avoid the weekend rush. I would have to wait 20 minutes ( probably more like 30 ) before they got to my truck. I opted to try again later.
Hate to see it.
... but now ? They had 2 workers servicing 3 bays. TWO! I showed up on a Thurs thinking I'd avoid the weekend rush. I would have to wait 20 minutes ( probably more like 30 ) before they got to my truck. I opted to try again later.
Hate to see it.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:29 pm to Eli Goldfinger
In a board full of bad takes, this may be the worst take I have ever seen.
I know a lot of service industry types that used to work two jobs. They’re not working right now because they don’t have to. They can’t be evicted from their apartments, so they’re not paying rent. Their unemployment was bumped uo and kept getting extended, so they have plenty enough money to eat. They were already on obamacare health insurance, so nothing changed there. They’ve spent most of the last 18 months hanging out on the beach or on random dudes’ boats and chastising folks online who want to go anywhere without a mask on. Their profile pictures are always masked with some kind of pro-mask/vaccine slogan, but their bikini beach pics are maskless.
They’re not going back to work because why the f$&k would they? Their largest living expenses are “covered” and they’re still getting paid with plenty leftover after utilities and essentials for booze and weed.
The government is 100% responsible for the worker shortage by paying people not to work and granting them immunity from eviction, essentially free rent.
I know a lot of service industry types that used to work two jobs. They’re not working right now because they don’t have to. They can’t be evicted from their apartments, so they’re not paying rent. Their unemployment was bumped uo and kept getting extended, so they have plenty enough money to eat. They were already on obamacare health insurance, so nothing changed there. They’ve spent most of the last 18 months hanging out on the beach or on random dudes’ boats and chastising folks online who want to go anywhere without a mask on. Their profile pictures are always masked with some kind of pro-mask/vaccine slogan, but their bikini beach pics are maskless.
They’re not going back to work because why the f$&k would they? Their largest living expenses are “covered” and they’re still getting paid with plenty leftover after utilities and essentials for booze and weed.
The government is 100% responsible for the worker shortage by paying people not to work and granting them immunity from eviction, essentially free rent.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:31 pm to kingbob
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I know a lot of service industry types that used to work two jobs. They’re not working right now because they don’t have to
Lies to suit your narrative are still lies.
Define “a lot”.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:32 pm to Eli Goldfinger
The virus paychecks have brain washed the working class people....they will always be looking for a bailout!
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:33 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Didn't see my post about the oil change business, huh?
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:36 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Literally over a dozen that I know personally.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:42 pm to Eli Goldfinger
this was us during 2010 - 2016.
lowest participation in workforce ever.
people also didnt like being forced to buy insurance.
the unemployment was better under trump, most blacks ever with a job.
but now, federal unemployment, extra child credits, no evictions, halts on student loans.
yeah, we have too many businesses.
fricking bullshite.
lowest participation in workforce ever.
people also didnt like being forced to buy insurance.
the unemployment was better under trump, most blacks ever with a job.
but now, federal unemployment, extra child credits, no evictions, halts on student loans.
yeah, we have too many businesses.
fricking bullshite.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:46 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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this has been brewing for about 5 years and really gained speed around 2018 under Trump’s economy.
I quit reading after this statement. It’s amazing most of the MSM and Libtards still have Trump derangement syndrome. I truly understand why though. It’s a cover to protect that idiot that stole the election
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:47 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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quote:
I know a lot of service industry types that used to work two jobs. They’re not working right now because they don’t have to
Lies to suit your narrative are still lies.
Define “a lot”.
Surely you can't be this out of touch Eli? The Fed & State unemployment package equals approx $24 an hour. You did know that right?
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:47 pm to Eli Goldfinger
as your only upvote i agree with this message. this board will not because poor people are lazy and take handouts and don't have to work.
It's totally ok to spend trillions bailing out wallstreet and the 1% but frick people making min wage that dont want show back up to thier shitty job.
It's totally ok to spend trillions bailing out wallstreet and the 1% but frick people making min wage that dont want show back up to thier shitty job.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:48 pm to Eli Goldfinger
A lot of those shops are still offering the same $400/weekly they've paid for 20 years.
The drug testing industry needs to be reigned in. The tests only detect weed anyhow.
The drug testing industry needs to be reigned in. The tests only detect weed anyhow.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:50 pm to hawkeye007
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It's totally ok to spend trillions bailing out wallstreet and the 1%
Not even a little bit okay either. Too big to fail is too big to exist, imo.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:50 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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This phenomenon didn’t just happen, but the free money certainly exacerbated the problem. No, this has been brewing for about 5 years and really gained speed around 2018 under Trump’s economy.
As the economy recovered under Trump from Bush’s Fannie/Freddie real estate bubble burst and Obama’s lost years of government regulation induced stagnation, the economy became healthy enough for consumer confidence and demand to increase. This was across the board but most noticeable in the service industry because of help wanted signs. But economic numbers showed increased employment and worker income. This was a very good thing.
After covid, the government shut the economy down. Businesses were closed and money was created and pumped into unemployment checks and stimulus grants. The economy was supposed to revive after wuflu shots were available. This occurred but government kept subsidizing low income people to stay on their arses, collecting “unemployment checks”, and not working.
Supply and demand. Service industry is operating again but its labor force isn’t. Unlike Trump’s healthy free market economy, this is an artificial government induced ill economy. We have artificially increased the money supply, and artificially reduced the supply of goods and services.
Too much money chasing too few goods and services ALWAYS creates inflation. And inflation increases the cost of everything including labor. The DNC/MSM Political Complex is pushing for another shut down guaranteeing stagnation.
Stagnation plus inflation equals Stagflation. Never thought I would see a Jimmy Carter economy in my lifetime!
Somehow I’m sure the DNC/MSM Political Complex will blame Orange Man Bad!
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:51 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Free rent is the main culprit.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:53 pm to hawkeye007
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It's totally ok to spend trillions bailing out wallstreet and the 1% but frick people making min wage that dont want show back up to thier shitty job.
weve doled out trillions in welfare.
im not for bailing out these companies, but they offer more to society than the people on handouts for generations.
welfare recipients are a net negative.
those bailed out companies are still paying taxes, salaries and producing items.
your economic thinking would destroy this country.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:54 pm to hawkeye007
You're still pouring money down a hole. Many people who work hourly in the service industry are clueless how to manage their finances. It all starts with the education system
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:56 pm to hawkeye007
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It's totally ok to spend trillions bailing out wallstreet and the 1%
this is what Biden is doing. Jesus Christ. No it's not ok.
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