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re: My list of worst 5 presidents ever

Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:25 am to
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:25 am to
1 - Obama


2 - Wilson
3 - Carter
4 - FDR
5 - Hoover
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:26 am to
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Even the worst presidents have a baseline of "0", with one exception. Obama did more to intentionally cripple the country than any other. I rate him at -5.

This makes no sense. Obama is "standing on the shoulders of giants" he was awful but other awful men allowed him to get this bad. With no Lincoln, TR and Wilson there would be no Obama
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:29 am to
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Abraham Lincoln beat democrat arse. He'll always be top 5 for me.


I'm guessing you're one of those people that doesn't realize that the rules of Republicans back then were a little different and so we're Democrats. In fact all of your ancestors in the South, who passed on all of their ignorance to you were all Democrats. Same ideas and practices same discrimination level same closed-minded approach to life
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13496 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:33 am to
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What did he do as president?

Historically, Washington should have become King of the United States or Lord Protector like Cromwell.

So therefore his greatest accomplishment was becoming president and voluntarily limiting himself to 2 terms. When King George III heard that Washington was stepping down he said, "If he does that, he will be the greatest man in the world." Enough said!

Also: he created the traditions of the executive branch ex.: the Cabinet, and he crushed the Whiskey Rebellion without casualties unlike Lincoln.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:33 am to
Wilson
LBJ
Obama
GHB/GWB
Carter

Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11024 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:34 am to
1.Trump
2.Trump
3.Trump
4.Trump
5.Trump
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13496 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:38 am to
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1.Trump 2.Trump 3.Trump 4.Trump 5.Trump

You must have broken a shite-load of mirrors! 7 more years of Trump for you!
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68266 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:38 am to
Obama doesn't belong on that list, he did little to nothing and even that's being erased.

Take him off and add LBJ.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 9:40 am
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:39 am to
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1. Obama
2. Hoover
3. Carter
4. W. Bush
5. FDR

I consistently see Carter on these lists, but not Nixon. Nixon actually froze wages and prices during his "Nixon Shock". Can anyone explain why Nixon is considered better than Carter?

Any list of worst presidents that doesn't include LBJ or Nixon on it is shite.

quote:

1. Reagan
2. Trump
3. Lincoln
4. Clinton (don't kid yourselves, from an economic standpoint he was good)
5. JFK (simply for being so steadfast while facing such a real nuclear danger)

Clinton didn't really do anything to create that economy, so I don't really give him credit for it, and it was the Republican Congress that set up the budget surplus.

JFK actually made the Cold War worse with his inexperience. The USSR never would've made those moves while Eisenhower was in office.
And why no love for Eisenhower on any of these lists? He was probably the least partisan

And "Trump",
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:39 am to
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Trump
Trump
Trump
Trump
Trump



Fixed it for you. Nice Trump chant.
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:41 am to
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Can anyone explain why Nixon is considered better than Carter?

IMO Carter didn't war monger so he gets punished
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:41 am to
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Can anyone explain why Nixon is considered better than Carter?



The letter next to their names.
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:44 am to
Washington gave up power twice, he could've been the king after the war. If he would have ran for a 3rd term he would've died in office and that would have set a terrible precedent
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:48 am to
1. Obama
2. Obama
3. Obama
4. Obama
5. Obama

Obama is the worse president in US history.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:54 am to
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The letter next to their names.

Seems like.

Can you imagine if Obama had come out with an Executive Order stating:

quote:

WHEREAS, in order to stabilize the economy, reduce inflation, and minimize unemployment, it is necessary to stabilize prices, rents, wages, and salaries; and
WHEREAS, the present balance of payments situation makes it especially urgent to stabilize prices, rents, wages, and salaries in order to improve our competitive position in world trade and to protect the purchasing power of the dollar:

Now, THEREFORE, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970 (P.L. 91-379, 84 Stat. 799), as amended, it is hereby ordered as follows:

SECTION 1. (a) Prices, rents, wages, and salaries shall be stabilized for a period of 90 days from the date hereof at levels not greater than the highest of those pertaining to a substantial volume of actual transactions by each individual, business, firm or other entity of any kind during the 30-day period ending August 14, 1971, for like or similar commodities or services. If no transactions occurred in that period, the ceiling will be the highest price, rent, salary or wage in the nearest preceding 30-day period in which transactions did occur. No person shall charge, assess, or receive, directly or indirectly in any transaction prices or rents in any form higher than those permitted hereunder, and no person shall, directly or indirectly, pay or agree to pay in any transaction wages or salaries in any form, or to use any means to obtain payment of wages and salaries in any form, higher than those permitted hereunder, whether by retroactive increase or otherwise.

(b) Each person engaged in the business of selling or providing commodities or services shall maintain available for public inspection a record of the highest prices or rents charged for such or similar commodities or services during the 30-day period ending August 14, 1971...


LINK

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Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13562 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:56 am to
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Lincoln? That guy is the reason we have a united states and not a confederate states. Should be recognized as one of the greatest presidents of all time




Lincoln is probably on his list because of his decisions on civil rights (mainly the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus and his arrest of more than 15,000 Northern civilians, often with little or no cause).

He may have freed the black slaves but he did not believe that they should be citizen. He wanted the former slaves removed to either Central America or back to Africa.
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:03 am to
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He may have freed the black slaves but he did not believe that they should be citizen. He wanted the former slaves removed to either Central America or back to Africa.

Not to mention the Corwin "ghost" amendment that Lincoln supported would have made slavery legal and permanent.
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:04 am to
Nixon was a prog just like Obama.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9928 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:04 am to
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Jimmy Carter is the worst president in the history of the United States, by far, and by almost every measurable factor.


This is the correct answer.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:06 am to
Why's Lincoln on the list? US is stronger together IMO.

Worst presidents:
-Obummer
-LBJ
-Hoover
-Buchanan
-Andrew Johnson
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